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China Bans Hearts of Iron

Posted: 2004-05-29 08:57pm
by Bob McDob
Insert witty phrase here:

The link! It burns us! It buuuuurns us!

Posted: 2004-05-29 09:03pm
by RedImperator
I don't get it. Are they disputing the fact the Japanese controlled Formosa in 1936, or that Manchuria was a Japanese-controlled puppet state?

Posted: 2004-05-29 09:29pm
by kojikun
RedImperator wrote:I don't get it. Are they disputing the fact the Japanese controlled Formosa in 1936, or that Manchuria was a Japanese-controlled puppet state?
Yes. << insert some witty reference to 1984 here >>

Posted: 2004-05-29 10:19pm
by InnocentBystander
I'd say thats funnier than the german ban of RtCW.

Posted: 2004-05-29 11:01pm
by Illuminatus Primus
InnocentBystander wrote:I'd say thats funnier than the german ban of RtCW.
What?

Posted: 2004-05-29 11:15pm
by Stormbringer
RedImperator wrote:I don't get it. Are they disputing the fact the Japanese controlled Formosa in 1936, or that Manchuria was a Japanese-controlled puppet state?
Yeah, that and disputing the fact that several idependent countries that existed and were invaded afterwards. Basically more "they're historically Chinese" excuses for countries they've invaded.

Posted: 2004-05-30 01:03am
by Icehawk
Illuminatus Primus wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:I'd say thats funnier than the german ban of RtCW.
What?
I think he means Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Personally I hadn't heard about it being banned either. But seeing how nazi sensitive modern Germany is, they probably banned it just because it had swastikas in it or something like that. :roll:

Posted: 2004-05-30 01:33am
by Pablo Sanchez
Icehawk wrote:I think he means Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Personally I hadn't heard about it being banned either. But seeing how nazi sensitive modern Germany is, they probably banned it just because it had swastikas in it or something like that. :roll:
It's understandable that it's a sensitive subject in Germany. At least they're dealing with their terrible history better than the Japanese, who sometimes seem like they're trying to just make it disappear.

Posted: 2004-05-30 08:42am
by 2000AD
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Icehawk wrote:I think he means Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Personally I hadn't heard about it being banned either. But seeing how nazi sensitive modern Germany is, they probably banned it just because it had swastikas in it or something like that. :roll:
It's understandable that it's a sensitive subject in Germany. At least they're dealing with their terrible history better than the Japanese, who sometimes seem like they're trying to just make it disappear.
Wasn't Medal of Honour: Rising Sun a best seller in Japan?

Posted: 2004-05-30 09:18am
by Lonestar
My head hurts.


*goes off to play HoI*

Posted: 2004-05-30 09:47am
by Sarevok
It is only a game, it does not matter if it is historicaly accurate or not. The chineese goverment needs to grow up and understand this.

Posted: 2004-05-30 12:32pm
by The Yosemite Bear
lol...

ohhh, yeah

now could someone explain to me why the 1.5 patch won't work?

I have version 1.2 that came off the disk in the bargin bin....

Posted: 2004-05-30 03:06pm
by PeZook
The entire reason for banning the game makes no sense to me. They probably got offended because winning as Mao was damn hard, and you could stomp his little commie rebellion easily as Nationalistic China :)

Posted: 2004-05-30 03:22pm
by acesand8s
The Yosemite Bear wrote:lol...

ohhh, yeah

now could someone explain to me why the 1.5 patch won't work?

I have version 1.2 that came off the disk in the bargin bin....
Do you uninstall the game, then reinstall, then install the 1.5 patch? Aren't they up to 1.06 now anyway?

Posted: 2004-05-30 03:51pm
by Super-Gagme
Yep, 1.06. But even if we weren't, he painted one hell of a picture about his problem. "It's brooooken. Fiiiiixxxx!!!" :lol:

Posted: 2004-06-02 05:11pm
by Admiral Valdemar
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Icehawk wrote:I think he means Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Personally I hadn't heard about it being banned either. But seeing how nazi sensitive modern Germany is, they probably banned it just because it had swastikas in it or something like that. :roll:
It's understandable that it's a sensitive subject in Germany. At least they're dealing with their terrible history better than the Japanese, who sometimes seem like they're trying to just make it disappear.
Actually, the German version had the swastikas replaced with the game logo to allow sale.

Posted: 2004-06-02 06:31pm
by acesand8s
Paradox responds
Following the ban of Hearts of Iron in China, Paradox Entertainment CEO Theodore Bergquist comments:

First and foremost, we are game-makers and do not have any political agenda, except to create the best games we can. To that end we always employ the most thorough historical researchers and resources available.

We recognize that World War II is still a sensitive topic for some governments, but we have always earned respect from our game-playing customers because of our integrity and historical accuracy—and that is what matters most to us.

Posted: 2004-06-02 07:36pm
by HemlockGrey
Paradox wouldn't put the Holocaust in HOI, won't put it OR the officer purges in HOI2, and competely jipped the slave trade in EU2, so you can't possibly accuse them of being "unsensitive". :roll:

Posted: 2004-06-03 02:34am
by Vympel
No officer purges? Serious?

Posted: 2004-06-03 05:27pm
by PrinceofLowLight
Eh? The officer purges are one of the things that actually makes playing the USSR difficult in HoI.

Posted: 2004-06-03 08:46pm
by Raptor 597
Vympel wrote:No officer purges? Serious?
Yeah, Paradox is going soft of us. We basically have real wargamers asking on the boards some limited R&D and equipment production (such as choosing what want in a Panzer Division, Shep was a major pusher in the movement) and said no all we can do is select build Panzer III Panzer division. I would hope they actually bother to make a stronger engine and it could be a better game.

Posted: 2004-06-03 09:15pm
by Alyrium Denryle
evilcat4000 wrote:It is only a game, it does not matter if it is historicaly accurate or not. The chineese goverment needs to grow up and understand this.
But they wont, because they are ChiComs :P