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Media players
Posted: 2004-06-25 12:22am
by The Morrigan
Um, not sure whether this really belongs here or in Off-topic. In the course of an rant regarding the general crap-ness of Media Player on another board, I was bombarded with suggestions that I download other media-playing software. However when I pressed said individuals for details about why any platform was better than others, the all looked shifty and avoided the issue.
Does anyone have any particular views as to which software is better and why?
Thank you for not messing with my head.
The Morrigan.
Posted: 2004-06-25 12:28am
by darthdavid
Winamp. WMP calls home to momma (microsoft) reporting your every action, can only rip in .wma and needs an external codec to play anything other than .wav or .wma. It's also bloated. Real player is OK but it can't handle certain file types and is full of spyware. Winamp has a broad range of supported filetypes, is lightweight and doesn't fill your computer with crap.
Posted: 2004-06-25 12:33am
by Crayz9000
I don't entirely know about Real having spyware, but what it does have is a rather nasty licensing/subscription scheme.
As a media player it's OK, I suppose. It has far too many useless "features" for my taste, however.
The Helix player, however, seems more promising. But it's only for Linux at the moment if I'm not mistaken.
Posted: 2004-06-25 12:41am
by darthdavid
Crayz9000 wrote: But it's only for Linux at the moment if I'm not mistaken.
If he knows what he's doing he could get it in source and compile it for windows
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Posted: 2004-06-25 01:03am
by The Morrigan
Cheers guys.
Crayz9000 wrote:As a media player it's OK, I suppose. It has far too many useless "features" for my taste, however.
Speaking of useless "features", why the hell does WMP have an automatic playlist called "Music I dislike"? What sort of depraved idiot wants to listen to a playlist full of music that they don't like? Even I'm not that masochistic. If I don't like music, I delete it from my hard drive/media library.*
* With a few notable exceptions which are so amusingly awful that I keep them around for my own childish amusement. Eg. William Shatner singing Tambourine Man, Paul McCartney singing Give Ireland Back to The Irish & that godawful song Britney Spears did with Madonna.
Posted: 2004-06-25 02:16am
by darthdavid
Morrigan wrote:Cheers guys.
Crayz9000 wrote:As a media player it's OK, I suppose. It has far too many useless "features" for my taste, however.
Speaking of useless "features", why the hell does WMP have an automatic playlist called "Music I dislike"? What sort of depraved idiot wants to listen to a playlist full of music that they don't like? Even I'm not that masochistic. If I don't like music, I delete it from my hard drive/media library.*
* With a few notable exceptions which are so amusingly awful that I keep them around for my own childish amusement. Eg. William Shatner singing Tambourine Man, Paul McCartney singing Give Ireland Back to The Irish & that godawful song Britney Spears did with Madonna.
It also likes to lag and crash.
Posted: 2004-06-25 03:02am
by Seggybop
I generally use the old mplayer2.exe. It takes less resources on this computer than Winamp. The new Windows Media Player is scary, I have disliked Real for too long to every use any of their stuff, and quicktime is x_X.
Posted: 2004-06-25 03:12am
by Equinox2003
I have never had a problem with media player, I think it is the best.
Posted: 2004-06-25 03:22am
by darthdavid
Equinox2003 wrote:I have never had a problem with media player, I think it is the best.
Let's see how great it is.
- .Wma Files:
Oooh, a closed standard, that has built in drm, takes up heaps of space and is incompatible with alot of file converters. Sighn me up fast cheif.
- Other Files:
A major player that doesn't come with a .MP3 codec standard? Excuse me while I shit myself laughing. And don't even think of trying to play say, a real media or ogg vorbis file in WMP. But it's not like anyone uses anything other than .wma for anything important so it doesn't really matter does it?
- Interface:
You're telling me that on top of all these great features I get to use a crapily skinned, de-stabilized version of the same interface that this player has been using for years? Gee Golly, that's fucking awsome.
- Phoning Home:
You mean to say that WMP sends messages about me back to Billy Gates? WHat for? Ooooh, it's to protect the walle...er...rights of record company execu....er...artists? Well fine by me then. He can have my credit card number and a key to my house too while he's at it so long as Brittney get's enough money to upgrade to E cups.
As you can see, windows media player offers numerous advantages over winamp, real player and all the other fine players out there.
Posted: 2004-06-25 04:11am
by Bugsby
Is WMP the best? Nope. Is it functional? Sure. It meets my limited needs. Now, if I were a much bigger music afficianado, pumping TBs of MP3 through my system every day, that would be different. But for simple folk like me, who just want to hear a song every now and then, WMP is just fine.
Posted: 2004-06-25 10:52am
by Zac Naloen
I use Music match Jukebox, not sure how that stands up to the crowds but it has internet Radio stations, artist choice etc and you cab buy mp3s through it for $0.99.
There is musicmatch basic and musicmatch plus (which you pay a subscription for. however basic is good enough for playing music and burning cd's.
Posted: 2004-06-25 11:05am
by General Zod
I'll use both Windows Media Player and Winamp, depending on the need at the time. For most movie files it's WMP 9, for mp3s and music it's typically winamp. I don't like RealOne player due to the fact of how laggy it is.
Posted: 2004-06-25 11:40am
by Mad
I use Winamp (the latest release of Winamp 2) for audio and Media Player Classic (not WMP) for video in Windows (had issues with Winamp's video playing locking up my computer).
Posted: 2004-06-25 01:22pm
by Vendetta
iTunes
Posted: 2004-06-25 08:57pm
by GrandMasterTerwynn
It depends. Winamp does everything that WMP does and more in a smaller memory footprint. However, old Windows Media Player (version 6.xx) is a very good player, if you're looking for a basic player that plays many things. Newer WMP causes crashes, locks a lot of the time, and has a clunky, pointless GUI.
Posted: 2004-06-25 10:34pm
by The Morrigan
Have now downloaded Winamp & discovered to my delight that it actually plays my Rita Hayworth singing Put the Blame on Mame MP3 that I could never get to work.
[does happy dance]
Posted: 2004-06-25 10:41pm
by darthdavid
Morrigan wrote:Have now downloaded Winamp & discovered to my delight that it actually plays my Rita Hayworth singing Put the Blame on Mame MP3 that I could never get to work.
'cause like I said, WMP needs an additional codec to play mp3s. Yeah that's fucking smart.
Posted: 2004-06-25 11:01pm
by Wicked Pilot
I use old school Media Player for mp3, avi, mpg, wav, and mid. For mov I use Quicktime. If I want to play a playlist of mp3s, I use Winamp. For wmv, and the other crappy new Windows formats, I use the newer Media Player, but I tend to avoid those file types. As to ram and rm, well let's just say that I don't let RealPlayer within 50 ft of my computer.
Posted: 2004-06-25 11:43pm
by Howedar
Real is the spawn of the devil. I'll use anything in preference to Real.
But Winamp is my preference.
Posted: 2004-06-26 04:20am
by Faqa
What's wrong with Realplayer? It plays great!
Otherwise:
Winamp - good, no frills movie player. No clunkiness, nice'n simple. My choice for music.
Real - seems to work better than Quicktime, my second movie choice.
WMP - clunky, annoying, bloated interface and features. And it's Microsoft. Ugh.
Posted: 2004-06-26 05:57am
by Spanky The Dolphin
I only use Winamp for MP3s, but I have all my media file preferences except for WMVs set for Windows Media Player 2.0, which I've always prefered as my default audio/video programme for playing individual files, such as when I'm browsing.
Other than that, I tend to use each format's specific player, such as the current WMP, Quicktime, and Real. Though as others mentioned, since it takes such an insanely long time to do anything, I tend to avoid Real format media.
Posted: 2004-06-26 03:06pm
by Admiral Valdemar
I use Winamp 5, though I've had to use WMP a lot lately for .wmv files. For some reason, Winamo doesn't play them when, originally when I installed v5, it did and did it well.
Posted: 2004-06-26 04:44pm
by Crayz9000
If you liked Media Player 6.4, then you could get
Media Player Classic, an open-source version of it. Not sure how they managed, but thing is, it works. And you can use any of the OSS codecs you like.
Posted: 2004-06-26 07:11pm
by darthdavid
Crayz9000 wrote:If you liked Media Player 6.4, then you could get
Media Player Classic, an open-source version of it. Not sure how they managed, but thing is, it works. And you can use any of the OSS codecs you like.
I use that for QT and RM files.
Posted: 2004-06-26 10:44pm
by The Morrigan
darthdavid wrote:'cause like I said, WMP needs an additional codec to play mp3s. Yeah that's fucking smart.
You're talking to someone who, until recently, refered to a USB port as 'that plug thingy that the mouse goes in' and once fixed her computer by throwing a shoe at it.