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Spiderman 2 The Game

Posted: 2004-06-30 11:48pm
by Cal Wright
So far it's been awesome. The web slinging takes a little getting used to, since it has to attach to something and often that can pull you off course. The spring jump and the double web strand is great. So far I've just gotten through the what seems like a mandatory tutorial. I'm really just running around doing the petty stuff and the hint markers. This game is so open ended. I don't if it's GTA VC open ended but it seems pretty much like that. The only draw back I see is the graphics. On par with GTA 3 which I will certainly compare it to. However for what it lacks in polished looks, it more then makes up for in gameplay value and fun. It's wonderful. I see myself playing this for the rest of my unnatural life. Woot.

Posted: 2004-07-01 01:29am
by Clone Sergeant
I'm up to chapter nine myself and I can honestly say that webslinging is a new form of narcotic. Once you get a handle on it, and buy a few of the speed upgrades, you can do some really amazing stuff. It feels very intuitive and Treyarch deserves an award for pulling it off so well. The missions on the other hand are bit repetitive and some of the boss fights are ridiculously annoying(all of the mysterio stuff I've played so far). As far as graphics are concerned, I got the Xbox version and it's very smooth framerate wise. and the textures are pretty nice for the most part. The character models could use a few more polygons though. But I recommend it for the absurdly fun webslinging alone.

As a side note, the concept of a wide open city is the set up for a superhero game. I think it could work for almost any character. Now there is no excuse for there not to be a game where I can tool around the entirety Gotham in the Batmobile, or whichever Batvehicle I prefer since I've got the entire Batcave and it's arsenal at my fingertips.

Posted: 2004-07-01 10:25am
by Cal Wright
Good call. The only Batman game I've ever played was the Batman Movie game on the NES and it was damn good. But I hear all the others have sucked hard.

Back on topic, I just really did more running around, I think it sort of thrust me into a story mission some how.

Posted: 2004-07-01 07:19pm
by Clone Sergeant
The best Batman game I've ever played was Batman: Return of the Joker for the NES and that was a side-scrolling shooter. Batman Vengance by Ubisoft was ok, my main sorespot with it was that the controls were way to loose, but they got the atmosphere right.

The first 3 or 4 chapters in Spiderman 2 are pretty easy though, consisting of earning Hero points, buying upgrades and a single boss with the Rhino. The story elements tend to only pop up after going to talk to somebody like Mary Jane, Jamison or Octavius. The chapter I'm at now is the second Mysterio encounter. You have to save 6 trapped reporters at the theater then destroy all of Mysterio's flying robots. The catch is that the floor is on fire and it is next to impossible to hit the damn robots unless their near the balconies. So far I've been able to save all the reporters but end up dying in the flames as I try to hit the robots with the swing kick.

Posted: 2004-07-01 08:25pm
by Alan Bolte
You could definitely make a similar Batman game. The best part is that you keep the webslinging mechanic for his grappling gadgets.

Posted: 2004-07-19 02:20am
by Lord Poe
This game is a ripoff. It says it allows you to go anywhere in the city, which is bullshit. The first game (from the first movie) was much better than this. In this game, you can only attatch your webbing to certain places, you can't get up to the very high skyscrapers anymore, and I've spent most of the time running since the "designated webbing zones" are so stupidly placed.

I should have saved the money and loaded the first game back on the computer.

Posted: 2004-07-19 02:35am
by Robert Treder
Lord Poe wrote:This game is a ripoff. It says it allows you to go anywhere in the city, which is bullshit. The first game (from the first movie) was much better than this. In this game, you can only attatch your webbing to certain places, you can't get up to the very high skyscrapers anymore, and I've spent most of the time running since the "designated webbing zones" are so stupidly placed.

I should have saved the money and loaded the first game back on the computer.
What are you smoking? You can attach your webbing to any building, and I've swung to the top of the Empire State Building (swung, not climbed...you just need to circle around the building on your way up). It does allow you to go anywhere in Manhattan (including Roosevelt, Liberty, and Ellis Islands). There are no "designated webbing zones".
I think you just need to get the hang of swinging; it can be difficult at first. What you need is to build up speed if you're ending up on the ground a lot. Use the sprint button/trigger during your swing to get more air. You can also charge your jump while swinging, which means you'll go farther after each swing.
Once you get the hang of it, there's nothing that movie/comic Spidey can do that you can't do too.

The first game was lame; you could attach your web to the sky to swing, and you didn't have the freedom of movement that you have in this game.

Posted: 2004-07-19 03:02am
by DPDarkPrimus
So, is it coming out for PC? :P

Posted: 2004-07-19 03:07am
by Robert Treder
DPDarkPrimus wrote:So, is it coming out for PC? :P
Just buy an X-Box. You can get them refurbished for like $120.

Posted: 2004-07-19 03:36am
by SylasGaunt
DPDarkPrimus wrote:So, is it coming out for PC? :P
Already out i think.

And I have to agree with Treder it's not at all hard to get up to the highest buildings (if you can't swing it just crawl up the damn thing) and getting on even the highest skyscraper in the city is peanuts compared to getting over to liberty island (which I've also managed)

Posted: 2004-07-19 11:13am
by Darth Mall
No Lord Poe is right.

The pc version of this game sucks balls :evil: . You can't get ontop of half the buildings you have to swing from floating spiderwebs and there are no upgrades. I also get the feeling that the game has a lot less content on pc then the Xbox has.


DarthMall

Posted: 2004-07-19 12:58pm
by Sir Sirius
I enjoyed the first one, but found this one to be quite dissapointing. Too short, too easy and inferior to it's predecessor in almost every way.

Posted: 2004-07-19 01:24pm
by Slartibartfast
So they actually dumbed down this game from the XBox TO the PC? That's just not natural...

Posted: 2004-07-19 01:40pm
by DaveJB
If you believe Activision, the only people who'd be interested in the PC version of Spider-Man 2 are 10 year olds with Celeron/Intel Extreme Graphics-equipped PCs.

Posted: 2004-07-19 07:01pm
by Lord Poe
Darth Mall wrote:No Lord Poe is right.

The pc version of this game sucks balls :evil: . You can't get ontop of half the buildings you have to swing from floating spiderwebs and there are no upgrades. I also get the feeling that the game has a lot less content on pc then the Xbox has.
Yeah, I have the PC version. The one for the first movie was much better. You could swing anywhere (except to the ground) you could shoot web balls on command, web and throw thugs on command, etc.

S2 won't let you do any of this. You shoot webbing when you want to punch, too. Sucks balls.

Posted: 2004-07-19 08:04pm
by RogueIce
Lord Poe wrote:Yeah, I have the PC version. The one for the first movie was much better. You could swing anywhere (except to the ground) you could shoot web balls on command, web and throw thugs on command, etc.

S2 won't let you do any of this. You shoot webbing when you want to punch, too. Sucks balls.
Man, they totally fucked with the game then. The PS2 version sounds a lot like the Xbox version. I love getting on top of the Empire State Building, charging up my jump, and leaping off. I even managed to web sling once without crunching into a lower cropping of the ESB. Good God, that's a lot of momentum I built up!

Damned terrorists... Can you imagine leaping off the WTC and webslinging from there, or going between the buildings? Ugh. At least they had the light memorial there. That was a nice touch.

Speaking of the WTC...that might make getting to the Statue of Liberty easier. Gah, I keep going in the water! Halp!

Gameplay-wise, the various side missions do get boring. I almost stopped with the green citizens and went directly to the purple ones (except those fucking kids and their ballons) because it had somewhat more variety (and I didn't have to hear the same thing over and over and over...). I hate those annoying boater ones, too. Damnable water.

Also...
Clone Sergeant wrote:The chapter I'm at now is the second Mysterio encounter. You have to save 6 trapped reporters at the theater then destroy all of Mysterio's flying robots. The catch is that the floor is on fire and it is next to impossible to hit the damn robots unless their near the balconies. So far I've been able to save all the reporters but end up dying in the flames as I try to hit the robots with the swing kick.
Grrr... :evil:

Those damned things are annoying. Stupid ass reporters and the fire. I managed to get it down to one fucking robot once, but he was up jammed in the damned cieling and I just couldn't get to him. I eventually fell in the fire and died because I had almost no life left.

Hell, even if I do beat the SOBs I'm thinking they'd better give me life or automatically take me out of the fire, because I'll have so little life left I wouldn't even survive a single little side mission to get any more.

Posted: 2004-07-19 08:28pm
by Robert Treder
Sucks that they nerfed the PC version. The console version is a really great game.

As for getting to Liberty Island, just attach yourself on to one of the helicopters near Battery Park and hang on until it gets near the statue. There are a few helicopters that always ferry between Liberty Island, Ellis Island, and the Battery.

As for saving the reporters, that one does suck. When you're down on the stage trying to get to the exit, go for the side balconies instead of heading straight for the exit. Once you're on a side balcony, you can jump straight to the exit balcony.
And if you think that sucks, wait until the next mission...you have to swing out to Liberty Island on these floating UFOs, and then you have to kick the crap out of Mysterio's machines at the top of the Statue...it's a real pain in the ass. But the game gets better again after beating Mysterio, so hang in there.

Posted: 2004-07-19 08:32pm
by Vendetta
DPDarkPrimus wrote:So, is it coming out for PC? :P
Poe is talking about the PC version.

The PC version is broken beyond belief, and shouldn't be touched with a fifty foot pole.

The console version is good, but limited as the main story game is quite short and the side missions and random crimes quite repetitive.

Posted: 2004-07-19 11:02pm
by Anarchist Bunny
Buying a new Gamecube on Wensday(my old one broke, and EB gives you a free old game when you get one) and I think I'm gonna get this game, too. The way I see it, if I had the first one, I know I'd still fire it up every once and a while.

Oh and is there a Doc Ock secret like there was a GG secret in the first one?

Posted: 2004-07-20 01:44am
by Lord Poe
Jesus...from reading about the Xbox version, I'm wondering if I bought a bootleg or not?

A Fully realized New York, with a Statue of Liberty you can visit when you feel like it? Empire State Building? I haven't seen any of this. I'm not far in the game yet- I'm at a stage where Mysterio has trapped Spiderman in some kind of holodeck where pieces of the city are floating in the air. And since this Spiderman can't attatch his web to nothing but specific zones, it takes his a long, boring out of the way route to destroy the generators. Twice.

Again, the PC Spidey can't climb no farther than maybe a 10 story building, if that. In the S1 game I have, Spidey can dive off a tall building, fall a dozen stories, and shoot a web out at the last minute and swing. Not this game.

Posted: 2004-07-20 01:54am
by Lord Poe
Goddammit, I've been ripped off! :evil: :evil:

Thwip!
PC game :
*Level based, not open-ended.
*City is broken up onto sections with loading between sections.
*Small city compared to console version.
*Free-roam mode only unlocked after beating the game, but still loads between city areas.
*Simplified controls.
*Thugs with odd "guns" that don't shoot bullets (aka. Water guns).
*Weblines for swinging only attach to floating web icons.
*Can't climb to the tops of all buildings.
*Long indoors sections.
*Spider Sense flashes trigger the start of a twitch game to hit the right keys.
*Play "Simon Says"-style puzzles to open vaults and disarm bombs.
*Diagrams are shown before each boss, showing exactly how to defeat them.
*Only combat combos are hardwired into the game. Just mash Attack, Web and Kick to see all you can do in the very first fight.

XBox/Cube/PS2 Console game:
*Open ended with free-roaming gameplay from the start.
*Unlimited, random street crime.
*Weblines attach anywhere on buildings, trees, poles, etc.
*Loads only before and after cutscenes and for plot missions, and only for a few seconds - even on PS2.
*Day/night cycles.
*Buy upgrades for your combat and locomotion abilities.
*Spider Sense is like Bullet Time, putting everyone else into slo-mo, enhancing combat combos.
*Climb to the very tip-top of the highest buildings.
*Hang thugs up on lamp posts with the right upgrades.
*Haul thugs up buildings and drop or piledriver them down with the right upgrades.
*So much more than I feel like typing out.

Get the picture?
I am really fucking pissed at this.

Posted: 2004-07-20 02:29am
by Slartibartfast
IGN had the following to say about the PC version of Spiderman 2:

"Spider-Man, Spider-Man, kinda does some things somewhat like a disabled spider can."

Posted: 2004-07-20 02:30am
by DPDarkPrimus
Slartibartfast wrote:IGN had the following to say about the PC version of Spiderman 2:

"Spider-Man, Spider-Man, kinda does some things somewhat like a disabled spider can."
Ignored, because IGN is still shit.

Posted: 2004-07-20 02:45am
by Slartibartfast
DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:IGN had the following to say about the PC version of Spiderman 2:

"Spider-Man, Spider-Man, kinda does some things somewhat like a disabled spider can."
Ignored, because IGN is still shit.
Okay, guess there's no stopping you, IGN must be wrong after all. So go ahead and buy your awesome game then.

Posted: 2004-07-20 04:08am
by Robert Treder
DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:IGN had the following to say about the PC version of Spiderman 2:

"Spider-Man, Spider-Man, kinda does some things somewhat like a disabled spider can."
Ignored, because IGN is still shit.
Have fun playing the piece of shit PC version, then. IGN must have been lying.