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Looking into alternate clients to OE, came across Thunderbird(built in junkmail filters sound interesting), which was kinda interesting but I loathe the fact that:

1) Different accounts get separate inboxes and outboxes, i want everything under one set of folders, maybe this is possible somehow?

2) Ctrl+Q is ingrained into my brain as marking messages as read, now it shuts down the client, argh.

What do you use and is it good?

Now I am not complaining about OE myself, I got it locked down and it works in conjunction with NAV-2004 so I'm pretty secure, I'm just in an experimental mood.

Mozilla Thunderbird. It is the bomb.


I'm sure there's a way to make all email move into one box. I personally prefer the mail being separated by account though.

You can set Thunderbird to send all your outgoing mail to the same folder (for example, "Sent" in "Local Folders"). I haven't found any automatic way to send all incoming mail to Local Folders, but you can probably do that with a filter.

I personally like the setup of OE, but not the security "features." So I'm using Opera now, because I loathe Mozilla (it just doesn't have the right feel for me). I don't like the no use of HTML email, though, and Eudora's... weird.

Mail.app in Mac OS X.

In Windows, I don't bother using a mail program. I detest anything that downloads all the emails to my hard drive without letting me look at them first, so I just use webmail. (I have set up MSN Plus to have MSN Messenger check all my inboxes, not just hotmail, for new emails). I don't mind it on the Mac, since there are no known Mac OS X viruses.

verilon wrote: I loathe Mozilla (it just doesn't have the right feel for me).

Just out of curiousity, are you talking about real Mozilla, or Mozilla FireFox?

His Divine Shadow wrote:Looking into alternate clients to OE, came across Thunderbird(built in junkmail filters sound interesting), which was kinda interesting but I loathe the fact that:

1) Different accounts get separate inboxes and outboxes, i want everything under one set of folders, maybe this is possible somehow?

Yeah, you can set a mail filter to move it to a specific folder after you recieve it. Click the tools menu and select Message Filters. Click the new button and check the box "Move to folder" and pick the account and folder you want the mail to be moved to. Then go from there.

2) Ctrl+Q is ingrained into my brain as marking messages as read, now it shuts down the client, argh.

You can mark them read by date (C) or mark them all (CTRL SHIFT C).

What do you use and is it good?

Mozilla Mail (I downloaded the entire Mozilla program instead of FireFox and Thunderbird seperately.)

Just a quick tip for those that use Mozilla Mail or Thunderbird:

Turn off HTML rendering by clicking the view menu, select "Message Body As:" and select "Plain Text". This will prevent the rendering of 1x1 transparent gif images, saving you alot of spam flooding your inbox. This will also prevent any scripts from running.

Praxis wrote:

verilon wrote: I loathe Mozilla (it just doesn't have the right feel for me).

Just out of curiousity, are you talking about real Mozilla, or Mozilla FireFox?

Firebird and Firefox. I don't really like the whole feel of Mozilla browsers in general, so I generally stay away.

verilon wrote:Firebird and Firefox. I don't really like the whole feel of Mozilla browsers in general, so I generally stay away.

You do relalize that the entire interface is skinnable right?

Vertigo1 wrote:

verilon wrote:Firebird and Firefox. I don't really like the whole feel of Mozilla browsers in general, so I generally stay away.

You do relalize that the entire interface is skinnable right?

speaking of skins. . .you don't happen to have any links to websites with skins available, do you?

Ok, I'm having Thunderbird going but damn, every time I click on a link in an email message a new mozilla window opens, with OE/Ie one single window was remembered as the mail window and all mail links opened in that window, how do I get that?

I'm looking for something to use in place of Outlook. Is there anything out there in which would take my archived Outlooked e-mails?

His Divine Shadow wrote:Ok, I'm having Thunderbird going but damn, every time I click on a link in an email message a new mozilla window opens, with OE/Ie one single window was remembered as the mail window and all mail links opened in that window, how do I get that?

My setup is with Firefox and the Tabbrowser extensions, set to open all new windows in a new tab. This way I get the Right Thing (one window, multiple tabs), although it is a bit tough to set up.

verilon wrote: Firebird and Firefox. I don't really like the whole feel of Mozilla browsers in general, so I generally stay away.

Well, first of all, the FireFox interface is closer to Internet Explorer than Mozilla.
And it's skinnable...try Qute and Pheonix.

Wicked Pilot wrote:I'm looking for something to use in place of Outlook. Is there anything out there in which would take my archived Outlooked e-mails?

Most should be able to import emails you export from Outlook

I use Ximian Evolution 1.5, with filtering using Spamassassin.

His Divine Shadow wrote:2) Ctrl+Q is ingrained into my brain as marking messages as read, now it shuts down the client, argh.

I take it you wouldn't consider Pine, then?

To the Mozilla people.. I know Mozilla's skinnable.. it's the feel of Mozilla that I don't like, not the look. It's just... weird... for me. One of the major things I don't like is the way it scrolls. Another is not being able to open a background tab, as far as I know.

verilon wrote:To the Mozilla people.. I know Mozilla's skinnable.. it's the feel of Mozilla that I don't like, not the look. It's just... weird... for me. One of the major things I don't like is the way it scrolls. Another is not being able to open a background tab, as far as I know.

I thought it opened a background tab by default? If not, you need the tabbed browsing extension.

I used Outlook Express, then switched to Pegasus Mail. It was pretty good too, until I started using and stuck with Thunderbird.

By the way, is there any difference between Mozilla Mail and Thunderbird? I thought the entire Mozilla suite was pretty sluggish loading, especially the browser...(took 20 seconds to load on my comp)

Darth_Zod wrote:

Vertigo1 wrote:

verilon wrote:Firebird and Firefox. I don't really like the whole feel of Mozilla browsers in general, so I generally stay away.

You do relalize that the entire interface is skinnable right?

speaking of skins. . .you don't happen to have any links to websites with skins available, do you?

http://themes.mozdev.org

Pu-239 wrote:

verilon wrote:To the Mozilla people.. I know Mozilla's skinnable.. it's the feel of Mozilla that I don't like, not the look. It's just... weird... for me. One of the major things I don't like is the way it scrolls. Another is not being able to open a background tab, as far as I know.

I thought it opened a background tab by default? If not, you need the tabbed browsing extension.

Firefox does it by default (in fact I think you can't turn it off from the options screen). Mozilla 1.x has a checkbox in preferences that ironically is called "load tabs in background".

I use Pegasus Mail. I find it to be an excellent no-frills secure and stable email client.