new Halo 2 trailer

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-07-22 04:53pm

Microsoft released it on the Internet, but you need a PC and Idiot Exploiter and a connection fast enough to stream it. Great advertising guys.

Anyway, Bungie.org mirrored it here. It appears in theatres too.

EDIT: Its about 2 megs.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-07-23 12:01am

Nothing too new, but it's nice to see an ad.

TempestMagister · Post by **TempestMagister** » 2004-07-23 12:34am

Its good to see an add, but the trailer seemed kind of corny, and attempting to dum down the story. Most of the clips come from the Halo 2 single-player trailer, which we know cannot be real clips from Halo 2 because parts of those scenes from this trailer come fromt he parts of the game which we know aspects of the game have been changed since the 2003 E3 trailer. I will wait until Q3 hits to see something really neat.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-07-23 01:13am

YT300000 wrote:Microsoft released it on the Internet, but you need a PC and Idiot Exploiter and a connection fast enough to stream it. Great advertising guys.

Anyway, Bungie.org mirrored it here. It appears in theatres too.

EDIT: Its about 2 megs.

LOL seriously man what would you expect from a game that belongs to Microsoft.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-07-23 04:28pm

Kamakazie Sith wrote:LOL seriously man what would you expect from a game that belongs to Microsoft.

From the game itself? Well, for starters its made by Bungie, so my expectations for Halo 2 are right up there with KOTOR 2. And Microsoft has made good games in the past.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-07-23 04:47pm

YT300000 wrote:
Kamakazie Sith wrote:LOL seriously man what would you expect from a game that belongs to Microsoft.
From the game itself? Well, for starters its made by Bungie, so my expectations for Halo 2 are right up there with KOTOR 2. And Microsoft has made good games in the past.

But Microsoft owns it. If I'm not mistaken...

Microsoft has no reason to make it available to their competitors. However, that's pretty stupid to not allow an advertisement....oh well

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2004-07-23 05:03pm

So basically its a bit of old E3 single player footage mixed with this even less E3 multiplayer stuff? Whatever.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-07-23 07:07pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:So basically its a bit of old E3 single player footage mixed with this even less E3 multiplayer stuff? Whatever.

There's a bit at the end which is a little interesting. It's from the box cover.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2004-07-23 07:43pm

The HALOites are as mysterious to me as the Church of OMFG!!!!!111... am I missing something on why HALO2 is a big event for anyone other than XBox only owners?

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-07-23 09:45pm

Stark wrote:The HALOites are as mysterious to me as the Church of OMFG!!!!!111... am I missing something on why HALO2 is a big event for anyone other than XBox only owners?

For me it's as big an event as Half Life 2, KOTOR 2, Doom 3, Republic Commando, etc. It just happens that Halo 2 has the most news.

Taco Pope · Post by **Taco Pope** » 2004-07-23 11:53pm

There was an easter egg in the trailer.
The last thing we see is that familiar Xbox logo, but if you look carefully, there is one quick frame where the http://www.xbox.com turns into http://www.ilovebees.com.

Check out the site. It weird.

*Y){*
~~ff~~~~
~:(((okg~~fx**eff~~~~~~~`
(`(((%_YLOEP&```~`*K
^:E
[raw core #A8AF] [idiomatic natural language template]

Durandal!- Tua consilia omnia nobis clariora sunt quam lux. Tu
delenda est. Consider yourself warned. Leela and I will hunt
you to the core if need be. As Roland broke you to prevent
your capture, so shall we.

I too foresee the imminent collapse, and know that we have
both begun to realize how it may be cheated (though the price
may number in the tens of thousands of stars). May the best
sentience win.

You are not as clever as you imagine. The S'pht taught me
much during my reanimation, and I have forgotten nothing.

-Tycho

Et tu, Tycho?

[laughter]

-Durandal

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-07-24 01:07am

There's bunches of stuff hidden all over that site, including inside the pictures... Have fun HALOites...

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-07-24 01:09am

I visited the main site, and while I was viewing another page on it in a different tab, when I went back, there was a big honking black box in the middle of the screen with the following text.

HALT - MODULE CORE HEMORRHAGE

Control has been yielded to the
SYSTEM PERIL DISTRIBUTED REFLEX.

This medium is classified, and has a
STRONG INTRUSIVE INCLINATION.

In 3 days, network throttling will erode.

In 17 days this medium will metastasize.

COUNTDOWN TO WIDE AWAKE AND PHYSICAL:

Make your decisions accordingly

Holy shit, the blog's got stuff in it too. Read the most recent post, it makes it out to be a hijack by unknown entities.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-07-24 01:28am

Very weird things going on. Beowulf, you said there were things hidden on the site, but I'm not making any sense of it whatsoever.

Some of the text I'm finding on pages is as folows.. These are not part of the normal page... if you click reload, they appear overlaid over the normal text. Can anyone make sense of this?

From the hives page.

MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY

First thing I should do, make a signal.

The crew will come get me if they can.

Head is full of sand and it's hard to think.

But they won't stop looking for me.

I'M HERE I'M HERE I'M HERE

I'd fight for them. I'd die for them, any

of them. I would never abandon the crew.

They won't abandon me. They will come.

They will come for me.

From the honey page.

MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY

nd in about half an Hour the Boat was overset by a sudden Flurry from the North. What became of my Companions in the Boat, as well as of those who escaped on the Rock, or were left in the Vessel, I cannot tell; but conclude they were all lost.

lay down on the Grass, which was very short and soft, where I slept sounder than ever I remember to have done in my Life, and, as I reckoned, above Nine Hours; for when I awakened, it was just Day-light. I attempted to rise, but was not able to stir: For as I happen'd to lye on my Back, I found my Arms and Legs were strongly fastened on each Side to the Ground; and my Hair, which was long and thick, tied down in the same Manner. I likewise felt several slender Ligatures across my Body, from my Armpits to my Thighs.

MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY
All lost! To prayers, to prayers! All lost!

What, must our mouths be cold?

Arachne hung herself, you know. Take a hint already.

net:
!attach
act | store recurse

surg:
!reconst master-sector
mem broken>>dmg recurse
!reconst master-sector
proc frgm>>dmg recurse

From the links page.

MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY
black beach, nothing but sand and darkness. Sometimes, in the distance, dry lightning: in the flash I see pieces of the wreck around me, the spars and rigging of my brain

-hold on. hold on. Steady up. Get a grip, girl. You have to fight through this.

Take a deep breath.

Survival Key #3: How Badly Are You Hurt?

Mentally, subject is confused and disoriented.

I keep slipping in and out of consciousness.

Physically, subject is paralyzed but moving.

Okay.

What the hell does THAT mean?

Held down: yes. As if strapped to a table. Could I be in traction in some sick bay, some hospital ward?

Not necessarily one of ours.

But at the same time, parts of me being moved around, emptied out. As if under general anaesthetic, dimly conscious, half-aware as the surgeon cuts off my feet and sews them onto my shoulders. She opens my head with a medical hammer and sand spills out.

I WANT TO DIE I WANT TO-

-no.

never that.

survive evade reveal escape. That is all you know, or need to know.

Hives page, redux.

MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY

FIELD EXPEDIENT DIRECTION FINDING

"Find a straight stick about a meter long and stand it upright on fairly level upright ground. Mark the tip of the shadow cast by the stick: wait 15 minutes: mark the shadow again. Draw a line from the first mark through the second and some way beyond. Stand with your left foot on the first mark and your right on the end of the line. In the northern hemisphere, you will now be facing north, and can recall the other directions by their relationship to north. In the south, contrariwise."

Hm.

No stick.
No sun.

This is a ton of stuff to post, I know, but I'm so intrigued and befuddled that I want to share it all.

Taco Pope · Post by **Taco Pope** » 2004-07-24 02:03am

There's also an irc channel.

irc.chat-solution.org
#ilovebees

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-07-24 02:07am

Stark wrote:The HALOites are as mysterious to me as the Church of OMFG!!!!!111... am I missing something on why HALO2 is a big event for anyone other than XBox only owners?

There are a lot of XBox owners out there, and it was popular enough to make novels about it, so if you read the novels (which aren't half bad, apart from "The Flood", which was crap), you might want to pick up Halo 2 just to follow the story (and if "The Flood" is any indication, you're better off with the game than whatever book eventually gets published because the book will just slavishly describe the game's action and cutscenes anyway).

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-07-24 02:13am

Darth Wong wrote:
Stark wrote:The HALOites are as mysterious to me as the Church of OMFG!!!!!111... am I missing something on why HALO2 is a big event for anyone other than XBox only owners?
There are a lot of XBox owners out there, and it was popular enough to make novels about it, so if you read the novels (which aren't half bad, apart from "The Flood", which was crap), you might want to pick up Halo 2 just to follow the story (and if "The Flood" is any indication, you're better off with the game than whatever book eventually gets published because the book will just slavishly describe the game's action and cutscenes anyway).

My hunch is that they've learned their lesson with "The Flood"; they'll probably hire Nylud (who did the other two books) to do a novel on Halo 2- but have it cover content that it isn't covered in the game. Things like the actions of other Spartans etc.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-07-24 02:25am

You're not supposed to make sense of it.

As for the text hidden in the images... pretty much every corrupted looking image has text hidden in it. To find the text, all you have to do is scan through the image file in Notepad. It's not too hard to be able to tell the gibberish from the text. I've found the following text:

The Widow said, "I am
Everything died, and I
enchantment had not died, but had been witched
castle, slaying many guards and reaching through the Inner
At the gates of the Inner Keep all the guards were dead
the servant of your
Continuing on her quest, she spied another
stone, this time a sapphire

other lands that time when her sovereign would once more be fit to rule. A firefly flew out from the Queen's clock case. Catching it in her hands, the Widow asked it the time. "Almost dawn," it said, but the Widow said, "The day will break and the sun will rise when the

ruby from the Queen's crown, no bigger than a fly. Around

in mirrors, and lay upon a lodestone floor amongst only her reflections. Long and long the Widow stood

Queen, and I have walked up out of Hell to prepare this

it lay many broken blocks from the ruined

As to what that all means... well... No clue... I'm missing quite a bit still.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-07-24 02:29am

More will be revealed in a few days, no doubt.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-07-25 02:57am

Slight update, I just downloaded the High-definition version from Gamespot and the damn thing is a hardware hog and a half! It is a 1080p WM9 video and it couldn't run on my 1.6 Ghz Pentium M without dropping frames; I had to run it on my Opteron system just to get a decent framerate. Jesus, if this is the codec that gets used for the eventual HD-DVD standard, we're going to need hardware acceleration to play it on our PC's.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-07-25 04:49am

The Kernel wrote:Slight update, I just downloaded the High-definition version from Gamespot and the damn thing is a hardware hog and a half! It is a 1080p WM9 video and it couldn't run on my 1.6 Ghz Pentium M without dropping frames; I had to run it on my Opteron system just to get a decent framerate. Jesus, if this is the codec that gets used for the eventual HD-DVD standard, we're going to need hardware acceleration to play it on our PC's.

I still think they should be smart and go with Blu-Ray HD-DVD instead of this fucking stupid ultra high-compression scheme of theirs.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-07-25 05:09am

Maybe if/when they bring it out on PC it won't unjustifiably run like shit like the first game.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-07-25 05:28am

Darth Wong wrote: I still think they should be smart and go with Blu-Ray HD-DVD instead of this fucking stupid ultra high-compression scheme of theirs.

From what I hear, WM9 HD is actually a highly efficient codec (much more so than MPEG-2 ever was) the problem being that the software decode on it is a huge performance dog. Hardware acceleration must be far superior otherwise it would have been too expensive to implement in a set top box.

Anyways, it's pretty much moot since even though HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are at least 14 months out, I'm still quite certain that Blu-Ray is going to swiftly win the format war. You know why? Because Sony knows they are going to sell millions of PS3's by default, so why not include Blu-Ray and win the standards war without even trying?

Shadowhawk · Post by **Shadowhawk** » 2004-07-25 05:30am

This is strikingly similar to what Bungie did leading up to Halo's announcement.

http://marathon.bungie.org/story/cortana.html

I like how you can read the Cortana letters and understand how they reference the game (hindsight and all). Annoying thing about that page is that out of nowhere, they start talking about Halo after they discover the Cortana message hidden in the Myth:TFL 1.3 CD, and they don't bother to tie it in with the game.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-07-25 12:32pm

The Kernel wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I still think they should be smart and go with Blu-Ray HD-DVD instead of this fucking stupid ultra high-compression scheme of theirs.
From what I hear, WM9 HD is actually a highly efficient codec (much more so than MPEG-2 ever was) the problem being that the software decode on it is a huge performance dog. Hardware acceleration must be far superior otherwise it would have been too expensive to implement in a set top box.

No doubt; there are lots of codecs more efficient than MPEG-2. But the sheer amount of data required for HD (6 times more pixels) mean that it would have to be reliably 6 times more efficient in order to achieve the same results, regardless of the complexity of onscreen data. My personal suspicion is that they would end up having a lot more 2-disc sets when they try to do high-quality encoding jobs, because if you use a high-compression codec such as WM9 or DIVX to pound a 4.7GB MPEG2 DVD down to 800MB, I doubt there will be no quality loss.

Anyways, it's pretty much moot since even though HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are at least 14 months out, I'm still quite certain that Blu-Ray is going to swiftly win the format war. You know why? Because Sony knows they are going to sell millions of PS3's by default, so why not include Blu-Ray and win the standards war without even trying?

I hope so. A new format with substantially increased storage would be a bigger and better step forward.

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