Catalyst problems

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-09 03:53pm

Right, so I download Catalyst onto my computer. I try to tweak some settings... and it freezes. No, not the whole computer, just Catalyst.

So, I try opening it up, and let it sit for a little bit, doing nothing.... and it freezes again!

What the hell?

Meest · Post by **Meest** » 2004-10-09 07:30pm

Use DriverCleaner to clean it all out then try a reinstall. What driver version did you upgrade from?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-10 12:48am

Meest wrote:What driver version did you upgrade from?

No clue. It was a full reinstall, so whatever driver came on the reinstallation disc from Dell... I'll just rollback and see.

Meest · Post by **Meest** » 2004-10-10 06:57am

I had problems going from an older driver I used to turn my 9700pro into a Fire X1 to the newer ones, kept getting zero service display error, looked up on it and alot of people having problems wiping the older drivers, in some cases even needing to re-install windows

Best thing is just to skip the auto install windows detects at startup.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-10 12:24pm

Meest wrote: Best thing is just to skip the auto install windows detects at startup.

What, where Windows automatically checks for updates? Those are for Windows OS and programs, not for my graphics drivers...

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-10-10 02:44pm

Meest wrote:I had problems going from an older driver I used to turn my 9700pro into a Fire X1 to the newer ones, kept getting zero service display error, looked up on it and alot of people having problems wiping the older drivers, in some cases even needing to re-install windows

Best thing is just to skip the auto install windows detects at startup.

What the heck are you trying to do by switching drivers for a card? you'ed need atleast a BIOS flash

Also, what drivers exactly, you probebly should have uninstalled your earlier ones, restarted, installed, restarted, only then tweaked.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-13 03:48pm

Ace Pace wrote:you probebly should have uninstalled your earlier ones, restarted, installed, restarted, only then tweaked.

It's what I just did, and it still fucking freezes... only now the entire computer. I even got an infinite loop error.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-10-13 03:52pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:you probebly should have uninstalled your earlier ones, restarted, installed, restarted, only then tweaked.
It's what I just did, and it still fucking freezes... only now the entire computer. I even got an infinite loop error.

Ouch, had that.

Okey, do the same thing, except when restarting, go into Safe Mode, and get Driver Cleaner http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/ and clean your drivers, and only then install.

What settings were you tweaking BTW? and get the official ATi drivers.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-13 04:41pm

Ace Pace wrote: What settings were you tweaking BTW?

Even trying to change my resolution, it feezes.

and get the official ATi drivers.

Duh.

Meest · Post by **Meest** » 2004-10-13 05:08pm

Ace Pace wrote:What the heck are you trying to do by switching drivers for a card? you'ed need atleast a BIOS flash

Also, what drivers exactly, you probebly should have uninstalled your earlier ones, restarted, installed, restarted, only then tweaked.

I used RivaTuner to softmod my radeon, and it needed an older driver version to work. Guess a newer one has blocks etc. Anyways, ATI's older drivers have a tendancy to stick around when not wanted, like I said some people had to reinstall windows. I still get the same error but the drivers work, just as soon as it's done installing I get "zero display service error" but it's fine after that.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-10-14 01:24am

Meest wrote:I used RivaTuner to softmod my radeon, and it needed an older driver version to work. Guess a newer one has blocks etc. Anyways, ATI's older drivers have a tendancy to stick around when not wanted, like I said some people had to reinstall windows. I still get the same error but the drivers work, just as soon as it's done installing I get "zero display service error" but it's fine after that.

For cleaning out drivers well, try driver cleaner.

Meest · Post by **Meest** » 2004-10-14 04:25am

I did, still can't install any Catalyst driver without getting that same error, read up on it, only thing people saying is a windows reinstall or format to fix.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-14 10:47am

Meest wrote:I did, still can't install any Catalyst driver without getting that same error, read up on it, only thing people saying is a windows reinstall or format to fix.

Which is bullshit, since I'm installing Catalyst after a windows reinstall and format.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-15 11:39am

Okay... so I've got my graphics cards settings changed, since I somehow can use the non-Catalyst control panel for the card (which I prefer anyways)... but now I have a NEW problem.

I cannot install DirectX. Period. Off CDs or from the file on Microsoft's website... it says it's installed, but all my programs say otherwise.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-10-15 11:49am

Weird, it installs fine? what does DXdiag tell you?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-15 01:15pm

Ace Pace wrote: what does DXdiag tell you?

9.0c.

I tried running Fallout... and it told me I don't have 20 MB freespace on my HD. Which is bullshit, I've got over 130 gigs free.

I'll try running 3dMark in a bit.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-10-15 01:19pm

sound like you got serious issue's, Fallout is quite old, maybe its not reading right those massive spaces

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-15 01:40pm

Bah, the 3dMark test is a big black screen.

So, apparently... my computer SAYS DirectX 9.0c is installed... but no programs are recognizing it.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-10-15 01:43pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Bah, the 3dMark test is a big black screen.

So, apparently... my computer SAYS DirectX 9.0c is installed... but no programs are recognizing it.

Very weird, 3dmark05 here just kills the PC though.

something is very wrong, I would suggest a reformat, but I assume thats not an option?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-15 02:23pm

Ace Pace wrote:I would suggest a reformat, but I assume thats not an option?

I already went through a reformat... otherwise my DirectX would be up to date. I do not want to spend four days or so of my entire freetime reinstalling everything again.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-10-15 02:37pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:I would suggest a reformat, but I assume thats not an option?
I already went through a reformat... otherwise my DirectX would be up to date. I do not want to spend four days or so of my entire freetime reinstalling everything again.

Ah okey, then I honestly have no clue.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-15 02:46pm

...Does anybody have an ANSWER to my problem, or do I have to put up with "You just have to reinstall everything"?

Because I am fucking pissed off. My computer already fucking killed itself once, I am in no mood to reinstall everything over again, even if I'm able to make a backup of files this time, and I WANT TO PLAY MY FUCKING COMPUTER GAMES!

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-10-15 04:02pm

Okay, when I restarted my computer, after it froze, I got two error messages.

Code: Select all

cli.exe- Common Language Runtime Debugging Services

Application has generated an exception that could not be handled.

Process id=0x58c (1420), Thread id=0x56c (1388).

and

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Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library

Program C:\Program Files\Dell\Media Experience\PCMService.exe

abnormal program termination

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-10-15 05:52pm

DP, it sounds like your computer is having serious hardware related problems (I went through some of this with you before and this just isn't the way a healthy computer should respond). Assuming you actually complete the Windows XP install properly, it makes no sense that you would be having all of these issues.

My suggestion: call Dell and have them fix the problem. The may need you to send your PC back, but at least then you would know that the problem is getting fixed properly.