Nintendo DS Question

ReinnResauq · Post by **ReinnResauq** » 2004-11-11 02:05pm

With two weeks to go until release, I haven't found any documentation as to whether Nintendo's new Dual Screen portable system will be able to play original Game Boy or Game Boy color games. If it doesn't I sure as hell don't want one because I don't want to have to carry around two systems in order to play the handful of games I own.

spongyblue · Post by **spongyblue** » 2004-11-11 02:17pm

As far as I know it will play gamboy advanced games, but not original gamboy games.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-11-11 02:34pm

No word on if it can play original GameBoy games or not. I hope it can, but if it can't, oh well.

Don't forget, the PSP can't play ANY gameboy games, so if you get that you'll still have to carry two systems.

You said it yourself you have a handful of games...keep an old gameboy for the handful of older games, and get the DS. Either that, or go emailing the people at ds.ign.com till you get an answer since we're not sure

so you know, the IGN dudes got sent the final release of the Nintendo DS so they actually have one system.

BTW, the Nintendo DS is NOT a GameBoy successor, so you know. Wait for the next GameBoy if you want.

ReinnResauq · Post by **ReinnResauq** » 2004-11-11 02:53pm

Praxis wrote:
Don't forget, the PSP can't play ANY gameboy games, so if you get that you'll still have to carry two systems.

True, but the PSP will be able to play Playstation games (at least, I think it will) so I will still have a decent library from the moment put the batteries in. I only have like three GBA games.

so you know, the IGN dudes got sent the final release of the Nintendo DS so they actually have one system.

Gamespot got three. They tried out the wireless multiplayer. Not of much use to me, I'm the only gamer in my circle of friends.

BTW, the Nintendo DS is NOT a GameBoy successor, so you know. Wait for the next GameBoy if you want.

How can it not be a Game Boy successor? It plays GB(A) games, it has several key design elements from the previous Game Boy, and Nintendo has already made a non-Game Boy portable machine which failed miserably. If the DS is not supposed to be a Game Boy successor, what is?

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-11-11 02:57pm

ReinnResauq wrote:
True, but the PSP will be able to play Playstation games (at least, I think it will) so I will still have a decent library from the moment put the batteries in. I only have like three GBA games.

No, the PSP won't fit Playstation games. You'll have to re-buy all your playstation games in PSP format (specially formatted mini-disks). You can't just pop in your PS2 games. So you won't have ANY games for the PSP.

Additionally, both PSP and DS have built in batteries (nothing to put in

), but the DS's lasts twice as long.

BTW, the Nintendo DS is NOT a GameBoy successor, so you know. Wait for the next GameBoy if you want.
How can it not be a Game Boy successor? It plays GB(A) games, it has several key design elements from the previous Game Boy, and Nintendo has already made a non-Game Boy portable machine which failed miserably. If the DS is not supposed to be a Game Boy successor, what is?

It's a third system. The GameCube can play GBA games too, remember, but it's not a sucessor.

There will be a GameBoy successor eventually (it's been stated by Nintendo) and it'll likely have a single screen.

ReinnResauq · Post by **ReinnResauq** » 2004-11-11 03:10pm

Praxis wrote:
No, the PSP won't fit Playstation games. You'll have to re-buy all your playstation games in PSP format (specially formatted mini-disks). You can't just pop in your PS2 games. So you won't have ANY games for the PSP.

You're fucking with me. I figured the damn thing would just be a portable PSOne, effectively a CD player with a screen. Goddamn piece of cocksucking shit! The more I learn about the video game industry's path, the more I begin to despise what used to be one of the most respectable industries.

It's a third system. The GameCube can play GBA games too, remember, but it's not a sucessor.

There will be a GameBoy successor eventually (it's been stated by Nintendo) and it'll likely have a single screen.

I'm getting so damn confused...if it looks like a Game Boy, talks like a Game Boy, works like a Game Boy, what makes it not a Game Boy?

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-11-11 03:41pm

ReinnResauq wrote:I'm getting so damn confused...if it looks like a Game Boy, talks like a Game Boy, works like a Game Boy, what makes it not a Game Boy?

Not being called a Game Boy.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-11-11 03:45pm

ReinnResauq wrote:
Praxis wrote:
No, the PSP won't fit Playstation games. You'll have to re-buy all your playstation games in PSP format (specially formatted mini-disks). You can't just pop in your PS2 games. So you won't have ANY games for the PSP.
You're fucking with me. I figured the damn thing would just be a portable PSOne, effectively a CD player with a screen. Goddamn piece of cocksucking shit! The more I learn about the video game industry's path, the more I begin to despise what used to be one of the most respectable industries.

Have you even SEEN the system? You're fucking stupid.

And there IS a PS1 that's small and with a screen on it. Find that if you want something the size of a dictionary that plays your PS1 games, and requires (I think) an outlet to do so (even if it IS on batteries, you'll go through them like candy).

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-11-11 08:12pm

ReinnResauq wrote:
Praxis wrote:
No, the PSP won't fit Playstation games. You'll have to re-buy all your playstation games in PSP format (specially formatted mini-disks). You can't just pop in your PS2 games. So you won't have ANY games for the PSP.
You're fucking with me. I figured the damn thing would just be a portable PSOne, effectively a CD player with a screen. Goddamn piece of cocksucking shit! The more I learn about the video game industry's path, the more I begin to despise what used to be one of the most respectable industries.

No, it's too small. It's smaller than a CD player. It's long enough, but nowhere near wide enough to take a full sized CD. You need to buy the games on mini-disks.

At least the DS has backwards compatability with GBA games...

It's a third system. The GameCube can play GBA games too, remember, but it's not a sucessor.

There will be a GameBoy successor eventually (it's been stated by Nintendo) and it'll likely have a single screen.
I'm getting so damn confused...if it looks like a Game Boy, talks like a Game Boy, works like a Game Boy, what makes it not a Game Boy?

First of all, it's way bigger than a GameBoy. Each incarnation of the GameBoy has gotten smaller, and the DS is way larger than the last one (the SP). The GameBoy is a mini-handheld, the DS is a maxi-handheld, and the GameCube is a console. That's the entire nintendo lineup.

Secondly, it doesn't use the same slot. It does have a second slot for GBA games, but DS games are a completely new cartridge type. GameBoys usually have the same type of slot.

And finally, most importantly, it doesn't have GameBoy in the name

ReinnResauq · Post by **ReinnResauq** » 2004-11-11 10:44pm

StormtrooperOfDeath wrote: Have you even SEEN the system?

Only in a few pictures with no regard for scale.

You're fucking stupid.

Most likely.

And there IS a PS1 that's small and with a screen on it. Find that if you want something the size of a dictionary that plays your PS1 games, and requires (I think) an outlet to do so (even if it IS on batteries, you'll go through them like candy).

I figured the PSP would be a subtle improvement on that, using smaller more powerful components while still backwards compatible with PSOne games. That seemed like a logical progression of the Playstation line. Apparently I overestimated the respect the company had for its consumers.

As for the DS, as I said, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's still a duck. And, if it apparently isn't backwards compatible with all Game Boy games and there's a new Game Boy coming out sometime that will be, it's also staying off my bank statement.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-11-11 10:54pm

ReinnResauq wrote:I figured the PSP would be a subtle improvement on that, using smaller more powerful components while still backwards compatible with PSOne games. That seemed like a logical progression of the Playstation line. Apparently I overestimated the respect the company had for its consumers.

That wasn't the intention of the line. Something like that would have a). no battery life, and b.) not nearly as portable. The intention was to break into the handheld market.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-12 12:08am

No offence, RR, but WHERE the Hell have you been since E3? All that has been known since both the DS and PSP were first announced...

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-11-12 01:23am

ReinnResauq wrote: As for the DS, as I said, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's still a duck. And, if it apparently isn't backwards compatible with all Game Boy games and there's a new Game Boy coming out sometime that will be, it's also staying off my bank statement.

It MAY not be backwards compatible with BLACK AND WHITE GameBoy games. That's like complaining that my GameCube can't play NES games.

And there won't be a new GameBoy for a long time. Nintendo hasn't even started working on it. They just stated that there eventually will be. Probably won't be for at least another 1.5 years at least.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-12 02:08am

Not "may not," it's been confirmed by Nintendo that the DS WILL NOT play Gameboy or Gameboy Color cartridges, but will be backwards-compatable only with Gameboy Advance cartridges.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-11-12 02:21am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Not "may not," it's been confirmed by Nintendo that the DS WILL NOT play Gameboy or Gameboy Color cartridges, but will be backwards-compatable only with Gameboy Advance cartridges.

Where was this confirmed? I've been searching everywhere. It's the one thing I couldn't find any official confirmation on, and it's been driving me nuts.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-12 02:31am

The latest Nintendo press release for the DS, or at least the one put out on 21 September:

The complete lineup of games planned for the launch of Nintendo DS will be announced in the near future. In effect, Nintendo DS already boasts a library of more than 550 games because it is compatible with single-player modes of games made for the world's best-selling video game system, Game Boy® Advance SP

If the DS' game library included Game Boy and Game Boy Color games, that number would be well over 1000, for one.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-11-12 02:44am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The latest Nintendo press release for the DS, or at least the one put out on 21 September:

The complete lineup of games planned for the launch of Nintendo DS will be announced in the near future. In effect, Nintendo DS already boasts a library of more than 550 games because it is compatible with single-player modes of games made for the world's best-selling video game system, Game Boy® Advance SP
If the DS' game library included Game Boy and Game Boy Color games, that number would be well over 1000, for one.

I guess that implies it, though considering they don't sell GB and GBC games anymore, that might explain why they're not counted...

You're probably right though.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-11-12 02:46am

I am right. Still sold or not, they would have been counted and mentioned if they were compatable. Since they aren't, they're not.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-11-12 02:57am

Dang. Oh well. Who really cares about black and white games anyway?

I'll keep my old GameBoy Color (it's only worth $20 at most anyway) and trade in my SP when I get the DS.

ReinnResauq · Post by **ReinnResauq** » 2004-11-12 11:42am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:No offence, RR, but WHERE the Hell have you been since E3? All that has been known since both the DS and PSP were first announced...

Um...I haven't been anywhere since before or after E3. I don't really follow the gaming scene that much. I got my PS2 last July, my GBA the year before. I'm too broke to do much more.

And now I'm wishing I kept my GBC instead of giving it to an ungrateful little brat when I got my GBA.

Archaic` · Post by **Archaic`** » 2004-11-12 12:08pm

Praxis wrote:I'll keep my old GameBoy Color (it's only worth $20 at most anyway) and trade in my SP when I get the DS.

If you're planing to play those games multiplayer, you'll need to keep the SP. DS isn't compatible with anything but the single player modes, like that press release above said.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-11-12 12:54pm

No multi on the GBA games? Awwww.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-11-12 01:41pm

ReinnResauq wrote: You're fucking with me. I figured the damn thing would just be a portable PSOne, effectively a CD player with a screen. Goddamn piece of cocksucking shit! The more I learn about the video game industry's path, the more I begin to despise what used to be one of the most respectable industries.

How did you expect a CD to fit in a portable?

ReinnResauq · Post by **ReinnResauq** » 2004-11-12 03:10pm

Sharp-kun wrote: How did you expect a CD to fit in a portable?

They've had portable CD players for almost two decades. It wouldn't be that much larger to stick an LCD and a couple of buttons onto a CD player. It wouldn't be as pocket sized as even a DS, but CD players aren't pocket sized anyway and we put up with that particular hassle. More importantly, you'd have 700 megs of game to take on the bus.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-11-12 03:11pm

ReinnResauq wrote: They've had portable CD players for almost two decades. It wouldn't be that much larger to stick an LCD and a couple of buttons onto a CD player. It wouldn't be as pocket sized as even a DS, but CD players aren't pocket sized anyway and we put up with that particular hassle. More importantly, you'd have 700 megs of game to take on the bus.

I know, but surealy you'd seen the photos of the PSP and wondered?