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Another one falls to the M$ Empire

Posted: 2005-02-24 07:38pm
by Mr Bean
Microsoft announced today that Nironobu Sakaguchi has joined Microsoft Game Studios to develop games exclusively for the next-gen Xbox.

Best known as the creator of the Final Fantasy franchise, Sakaguchi was the executive vice president in charge of game development at Square Enix until Feb, 2001 and is president of Mistwalker game studios.
:twisted:
Thats right folks, Gates now owns, the creator of finaly Fantasy
Only Solid Snake, Samus Auran and Gordan Freeman remain outside his control(Or his designated represenative)

Posted: 2005-02-24 07:43pm
by Praxis
CRRRRRAAAAP.

But he doesn't own any of those games, right? Square Enix does...right?

Gah. At least Nintendo is still going (recall what happened last time MS tried to buy them?)...

Posted: 2005-02-24 07:45pm
by Shinova
Praxis wrote: Gah. At least Nintendo is still going (recall what happened last time MS tried to buy them?)...

LOL, Nintendo exec literally went "Piss off, suck my dick, etc" at Balmer. :lol:

Posted: 2005-02-24 07:52pm
by Praxis
Shinova wrote:
Praxis wrote: Gah. At least Nintendo is still going (recall what happened last time MS tried to buy them?)...

LOL, Nintendo exec literally went "Piss off, suck my dick, etc" at Balmer. :lol:
Nintendo CEO, actually :lol:

Posted: 2005-02-24 08:01pm
by Praxis
Destructionator XIII wrote:
Shinova wrote:
Praxis wrote: Gah. At least Nintendo is still going (recall what happened last time MS tried to buy them?)...

LOL, Nintendo exec literally went "Piss off, suck my dick, etc" at Balmer. :lol:
That didn't actually happen, did it?

Anyways, Sakaguchi's recent stuff hasn't been that good anyways. Just as long as Kojima doesn't fall, I'll be content. The MGS series is one of the few old franchises I still enjoy.
I dunno, I'm fairly certain it did happen.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20547

It originally came from Wired magazine according to the link at the bottom.

I've seen some people claim it was fake but no reliable sources have said they were wrong about it or tried to disprove it...

Posted: 2005-02-24 08:10pm
by Anarchist Bunny
Bah, thats no thing, he created it ~20 years ago, he's probably had little to due with it since 6 at most. Shigeru Myomoto(sp?) hasn't been involved in a Zelda since OoT IIRC.

EDIT: Now MS buying Rare, that was a terrible loss, we lost their DK and Starfox work(fuck you Namco) and MS got the Perfect Dark and Conker lines.

Posted: 2005-02-24 09:16pm
by Joe
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Posted: 2005-02-24 09:24pm
by Xephon
Bah, good for Microsoft. Kudos to them for buying a guy who can at LEAST make mediocre rpgs.

Posted: 2005-02-24 09:27pm
by Praxis
I wonder why MS can't make any games themselves and always have to resort to buying them from others?

Halo (Bungie), Age of Empires (Ensemble), and almost every really good game from MS were made by others and bought.

MS may have made some sports and racing games, I'm not sure, but thats far from innovative.

Posted: 2005-02-24 09:33pm
by SPOOFE
I wonder why MS can't make any games themselves and always have to resort to buying them from others?
Not a fan of Flight Simulator, huh?

Posted: 2005-02-24 09:44pm
by Praxis
SPOOFE wrote:
I wonder why MS can't make any games themselves and always have to resort to buying them from others?
Not a fan of Flight Simulator, huh?
Ah, forgot that one.
Well, there's one on the list :lol:

Posted: 2005-02-24 09:53pm
by Seggybop
Sakaguchi had already been marginalized by Square after some project he wasn't even responsible for failed (yay for Japanese corporate management skills!). This is actually a positive development, seeing as if he'd stayed at Square he'd have been unable to accomplish anything.

Posted: 2005-02-24 10:04pm
by Joe
Seggybop wrote:Sakaguchi had already been marginalized by Square after some project he wasn't even responsible for failed (yay for Japanese corporate management skills!). This is actually a positive development, seeing as if he'd stayed at Square he'd have been unable to accomplish anything.
The FF movie? He was totally responsible for it. He directed it!

Posted: 2005-02-25 12:46am
by Uraniun235
Praxis wrote:I wonder why MS can't make any games themselves and always have to resort to buying them from others?

Halo (Bungie), Age of Empires (Ensemble), and almost every really good game from MS were made by others and bought.

MS may have made some sports and racing games, I'm not sure, but thats far from innovative.
Maybe they recognize that game development is a weakness and they're looking to rectify that by bringing respected and proven talent into their organization?

But hey, what do I know about sensible business management?

Posted: 2005-02-25 04:18am
by Archaic`
Praxis wrote:I dunno, I'm fairly certain it did happen.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20547

It originally came from Wired magazine according to the link at the bottom.

I've seen some people claim it was fake but no reliable sources have said they were wrong about it or tried to disprove it...
Fake, says Wired Magazine

Posted: 2005-02-25 06:10am
by HemlockGrey
The FF movie? He was totally responsible for it. He directed it!
He was probably marginialized for failing to commit suicide in the wake of such a catastrophe.

Posted: 2005-02-25 07:07am
by Xon
This isnt bad.

What is bad is when EA Games buys the study up. Microsoft is a great publisher, a fantastic publisher, compared to them.

And Bungie must have a god damn blank check(s) from the Microsoft exec's

Posted: 2005-02-25 07:21am
by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman
SPOOFE wrote:
I wonder why MS can't make any games themselves and always have to resort to buying them from others?
Not a fan of Flight Simulator, huh?
IIRC Flight Simulator was developed by Bruce Atwick and originally published by SubLogic, until he sold out to M$ circa 1991. Or am I mistaken?

Posted: 2005-02-25 11:17am
by Praxis
Uraniun235 wrote:
Praxis wrote:I wonder why MS can't make any games themselves and always have to resort to buying them from others?

Halo (Bungie), Age of Empires (Ensemble), and almost every really good game from MS were made by others and bought.

MS may have made some sports and racing games, I'm not sure, but thats far from innovative.
Maybe they recognize that game development is a weakness and they're looking to rectify that by bringing respected and proven talent into their organization?

But hey, what do I know about sensible business management?
So when you suck at making games, buy someone who's better than you to do the work :P

Posted: 2005-02-25 12:43pm
by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman
Praxis wrote:
So when you suck at making games, buy someone who's better than you to do the work :P
Actually Micro$$oft philosophy from the very start is, "when you suck at making *ANYTHING*, buy someone who's better than you to do the work" (or at least buy and repackage their product). Seattle Computing, anyone? :wink:

Re: Another one falls to the M$ Empire

Posted: 2005-02-25 01:01pm
by InnocentBystander
Mr Bean wrote:
Microsoft announced today that Nironobu Sakaguchi has joined Microsoft Game Studios to develop games exclusively for the next-gen Xbox.

Best known as the creator of the Final Fantasy franchise, Sakaguchi was the executive vice president in charge of game development at Square Enix until Feb, 2001 and is president of Mistwalker game studios.
:twisted:
Thats right folks, Gates now owns, the creator of finaly Fantasy
Only Solid Snake, Samus Auran and Gordan Freeman remain outside his control(Or his designated represenative)
Pardon me for being confused, but why is this such a big deal? They will still make games, won't they? If anything this is good, now they have a financial backer who can support them while they craft their games, more time = better game generally... what's the problem?

Re: Another one falls to the M$ Empire

Posted: 2005-02-25 01:30pm
by Dead_Ghost
InnocentBystander wrote:Pardon me for being confused, but why is this such a big deal? They will still make games, won't they? If anything this is good, now they have a financial backer who can support them while they craft their games, more time = better game generally... what's the problem?
Asides remebering the terror of EA :wink: , perhaps it's the naggy thing called monopoly? :lol:

Posted: 2005-02-25 02:14pm
by InnocentBystander
Well that doesn't really worry me any. Not yet anyway. It's not like them buying a company that makes good video games is illegal or anything. They provide a superior platform, thus the company can make superior games. Why wouldn't you want all games to run on the best platform, honestly...

Posted: 2005-02-25 03:22pm
by White Haven
'Superior' like Mechassault 2?

Posted: 2005-02-25 09:20pm
by Uraniun235
Praxis wrote:So when you suck at making games, buy someone who's better than you to do the work :P
lol micro$uck am i rite?