Does anyone play Warcraft 3?

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-05-24 08:35am

Straightforward question. What say you? And also, would you like to play multiplayer?

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-05-24 11:37am

From time to time, I mostly just play custom maps now and then. I've been a fan of the LotR maps from Starcraft, and my love of these maps continues on into WC3x.

Mlenk · Post by **Mlenk** » 2005-05-24 12:31pm

I still have it and the Frozen Throne loaded on my computer. I'll still play it every now and then.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-05-24 08:05pm

What about Age of Mythology? Does anyone play THAT game? Does anyone even know what it is?

To be frank, I'm not sure I really like Warcraft 3. It has some good but also some bad. The bad is an utterly tits-up storyline that could have been taken to the cleaners due to the bullshit stains. But it can be fun.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2005-05-24 09:39pm

Stofsk wrote:What about Age of Mythology? Does anyone play THAT game? Does anyone even know what it is?

To be frank, I'm not sure I really like Warcraft 3. It has some good but also some bad. The bad is an utterly tits-up storyline that could have been taken to the cleaners due to the bullshit stains. But it can be fun.

The game is terrible.

I don't have nor have I ever played Frozen Throne, maybe that changes things. But straight WC3 is awful. It's the zenith of the stupid hero-based RTS trend, which while it can be done well (Dawn of War, Warlords Battlecry), it's generally not.

And no, don't have AoM.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-05-24 10:01pm

JediNeophyte wrote:The game is terrible.

I'm not going to disagree. It can be fun, but it can also suck too.

I don't have nor have I ever played Frozen Throne, maybe that changes things. But straight WC3 is awful. It's the zenith of the stupid hero-based RTS trend, which while it can be done well (Dawn of War, Warlords Battlecry), it's generally not.

And no, don't have AoM.

I brought up AoM because I was surprised at how much it has grown on me. It has a hero-based RTS system, but it doesn't have the insane levels of bullshit WC3 has. Plus it is slower too, which i actually appreciate, and it has varying degrees of difficulty. Sometimes you just want to take it slow and easy; with Starcraft and Warcraft, they want you to jack up on amphetamines before you start a game, because it's so energetic.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2005-05-24 11:21pm

I got both, actually I used to have AoM but don't have that no more because I loaned it out to a friend who then went to Peru and I haven't heard from him since. I haven't played WC3 since I got WoW.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2005-05-24 11:30pm

I was disappointed by WC3. The idea of upkeep made it obscenely hard to make those huge armies we see in the previews. I like big armies, despite my inability to command them.

Plus the reliance on heroes irritated me.

Quadlok · Post by **Quadlok** » 2005-05-25 01:22am

I have WC3 and Frozen Throne. I haven't played them in a while, and I never really liked the Warcraft/Starcraft multiplayer experience because of all the jackasses.

The small army sizes and hero reliance don't bother me except that it makes having reserves basically impossible, and the story line I found asinine and in poor continuity with the previous games.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-05-25 01:35am

Gandalf wrote:I was disappointed by WC3. The idea of upkeep made it obscenely hard to make those huge armies we see in the previews. I like big armies, despite my inability to command them.

Plus the reliance on heroes irritated me.

I can only recall one preview which featured a large army, and most of that preview was looking at a bird while the ground shook. I don't recall any in-game shots that featured huge armies.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2005-05-25 01:48am

I only play custom maps. I don't care for the regular game.

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2005-05-25 03:25am

Quadlok wrote:the story line I found asinine and in poor continuity with the previous games.

How so?

I used to play War 3 a fair bit, but a friend convinced me to get WoW and it's hard to rationalize playing something repetitive for free when you've got a subscription based adventure game to play. However, I'd be perfectly willing to play with someone just on occasion. I like the normal multiplayer reasonably well, but I also liked that one custom map where there's two opposing uncontrolled armies and the players all control just a hero. It's not unlike the upcoming battlegrounds to an extent, I guess, but it's different because you're playing both with and against people you actually know. Also, you actually level up during the battle.

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2005-05-25 01:01pm

Custom maps for me only, there are some truly fun ones out there that I could spend days playing.

Quadlok · Post by **Quadlok** » 2005-05-25 04:44pm

Alan Bolte wrote:
Quadlok wrote:the story line I found asinine and in poor continuity with the previous games.
How so?

The Orcs go from crazy basically uncontrollable bastards to poor misunderstood noble warriors who were minipulated by demons. And I found it hard that anyone could be as big a dipshit as Arthas.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2005-05-26 02:57am

Not to mention a huge chunk of the Frozen Throne storyline was lifted from Brood War.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-05-26 03:05am

HemlockGrey wrote:Not to mention a huge chunk of the Frozen Throne storyline was lifted from Brood War.

The entire storyline from Warcraft 3 and Frozen Throne was lifted from Starcraft, with cosmetic differences. The characters in Starcraft are more enjoyable than the ones in Warcraft 3. You can sympathise with Kerrigan because she didn't join the Zerg out of choice. You can't sympathise with Arthas because... well, he's a little dick. I hated all the characters from Warcraft 3.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2005-05-26 08:18am

All modern Blizard games have "heros" which are seriously fucked over.

Look at their treatment of Paladins in World of Warcraft. The single most boring class to play were all their combat ability are chance based (aka no skill involved, complete slave to the pseudo-random number generator) and have the least amount of actual user skill required todo anything. And that is "working as intended".

Arthas (as living or undead) was a fucking anoyance.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-05-26 08:25am

I like the idea of having heroes on the battlefield, but Blizzard screwed it up with Warcraft 3 by making them so pivotal (while also lowering the unit cap to ridiculous levels). In Age of Mythology you can still have large armies (well, larger than WC3 at any rate) and you can still have heroes, but heroes don't take up the kind of role in WC3 (namely, the "It's clobberin' time!" variety). Starcraft did heroes in a good way too.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2005-05-26 09:20am

Arthas' "turning the Dark Side" was so stupidly done. I thought it could have shown promise with him slaughtering that city, but nooooo...."Oh, look, here's this completely random sword which I'll whip out and suddenly become evil."

Plus, WTF was up with Illidan? He was like a shitty evil twin of Zeratul.