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Dear G&C mods,

Faram (et al.), can a clarification be made for the differences here? I may just be ignorant, but I do not understand what is so bad about advertising abandonware. I thought that even on the "dog site", does it not list the law that shows how they are able to offer the games listed? And with some of the games, they even list an old game but state you MUST purchase it from the original company, or somesuch, or Purchase the game from digitalbits.


Sincerely,
Confused in Jacksonville

Because in a strictly legal (as in being potentially sued) abandonware does count as warez.
Sadly

I WANT A RESPONSE IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH MY INQUIRY, DAMN YOU! RESPOND TO ME AS DEAR ABBY WOULD A TROUBLED HOUSEWIFE IN CONNETICUT!

Chardok wrote:Dear G&C mods,

Faram (et al.), can a clarification be made for the differences here? I may just be ignorant, but I do not understand what is so bad about advertising abandonware. I thought that even on the "dog site", does it not list the law that shows how they are able to offer the games listed? And with some of the games, they even list an old game but state you MUST purchase it from the original company, or somesuch, or Purchase the game from digitalbits.


Sincerely,
Confused in Jacksonville

I did not make the copyright law.

But isn't abandonware illegal?

Unfortunately, yes. Despite the fact that publishers no longer derive revenues from these games since they have stopped selling them (and any revenues from retailers that still sell them were gained a long time ago, at the time of sales), it is illegal to distribute them so long as copyright holders have not released them into the public domain, and 95 years after the games' release have not elapsed.

So just because it is abandoned do not mean that the are legal, so I will as long as an admin do not tell me otervise kill links to abandonware sites.

Chardok wrote:I WANT A RESPONSE IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH MY INQUIRY, DAMN YOU! RESPOND TO ME AS DEAR ABBY WOULD A TROUBLED HOUSEWIFE IN CONNETICUT!

Oh dear I did't respond in like 20min and you blow your top?

Damnit chill down I have a life outside SD.NET

No problem. Just needed a bit o' clarification, is all. Wasn't trying to tell you how to do your job or anything.

Faram wrote:

Chardok wrote:I WANT A RESPONSE IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH MY INQUIRY, DAMN YOU! RESPOND TO ME AS DEAR ABBY WOULD A TROUBLED HOUSEWIFE IN CONNETICUT!

Oh dear I did't respond in like 20min and you blow your top?

Damnit chill down I have a life outside SD.NET

No, I was responding to 303 like that. I was only joking. I Was just talking about a response like:

Dear Confused,
You're an idiot. Abandonware is illegal because....[reason here]

Sincerely,
Your friendly neighborhood moderator.

EDIT__________________________________________________

But in a manner consistent with my typical american myopia, I failed to recognize that you are not, in fact, american,(And that you were the most likely one to respond to my inquiry) and probably have not heard of Dear Abby before. Please accept my apology, Faram, it was sincerely not my intention to come across as blowing my stack. I need to work on that, not everyone knows me as well as I would like to believe (The world DOESN'T revolve around me?! [vader]NOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo[/vader]!), and your interpretation of my bolded post is completely understandable, and totally my fault.

Chardok wrote:EDIT__________________________________________________

But in a manner consistent with my typical american myopia, I failed to recognize that you are not, in fact, american,(And that you were the most likely one to respond to my inquiry) and probably have not heard of Dear Abby before. Please accept my apology, Faram, it was sincerely not my intention to come across as blowing my stack. I need to work on that, not everyone knows me as well as I would like to believe (The world DOESN'T revolve around me?! [vader]NOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo[/vader]!), and your interpretation of my bolded post is completely understandable, and totally my fault.

The all caps got you on my shitlist and that got you off.

I fully support abandonwares sites like "The Underdogs" who clearly display when a game is available for purchase, even when through very obscure means. And when it is available for purchase, they don't have it available for download...

That is what makes it good for me...

I agree with weemadando on that one. It was that site that got me to purchase a copy of MoO2 rather than download it off that K-named P2P service, since I saw the rights had been bought and it was being remanufactured. They'll only make a game available if it's not available otherwise (or soon to be made available...I'm pretty sure they've pulled games when a company announced plans to re-release).