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Christian gamers getting Left Behind

Posted: 2005-07-03 02:52pm
by The Grim Squeaker
To keep the balance for every TA, there must be something like this, still at least it wont desecrate the corpses of anything interesting:

Real-time strategy game based on the Left Behind novels is descending on the PC.

Left Behind Games today announced that it will be publishing a real-time strategy PC game based on the Left Behind novels. Left Behind: Eternal Forces is appropriately scheduled for release "between Christmas 2005 and Easter 2006." Left Behind Games was established in 2001, and it aims to bring morally just and family-friendly games to the masses.

The game is set after the Rapture has taken the faithful up to heaven. Satan's forces are slowly taking over the world, slowly bending countries to their will. As part of the rebel Tribulation Forces, gamers will fight in apocalyptic battles in New York City.

Eternal Forces crosses over from the series of novels written by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins. The Christian books have sold more than 63 million copies across the world, and the first two novels were adapted into films starring Growing Pains actor Kirk Cameron.
Jesus's link :wink:
Iv'e read about these christian gaming companies, has anyone tried some of the "smite the heathen's" shooter's?

Posted: 2005-07-03 03:03pm
by Temjin
I wonder if we'll be able to play on the side of Satan?

.....Hey! A guy can hope!

Posted: 2005-07-03 03:03pm
by Arthur_Tuxedo
I think I played this game already when it was called Doom 2 and wasn't programmed by fundies.

Posted: 2005-07-03 03:36pm
by Datana
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I think I played this game already when it was called Doom 2 and wasn't programmed by fundies.
No, that would be Super 3D Noah's Ark (well, that was actually based on Wolf3D, but...).

Posted: 2005-07-03 05:15pm
by FSTargetDrone
Don't tell me you've all forgotten about CATECHUMEN!

Posted: 2005-07-03 05:29pm
by Chmee
How long until GTA: Sodom & Gomorrah?

Posted: 2005-07-03 07:27pm
by Jaepheth
Chmee wrote:How long until GTA: Sodom & Gomorrah?

Wouldn't that be GTE? (Grand Theft Equestrian)

Posted: 2005-07-03 10:33pm
by EmperorMing
Chmee wrote:How long until GTA: Sodom & Gomorrah?
As long as I can sacrifice to Baal in some back alley... :twisted:

Posted: 2005-07-03 11:24pm
by YT300000
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I think I played this game already when it was called Doom 2 and wasn't programmed by fundies.
We can only hope...

Posted: 2005-07-04 12:22am
by mauldooku
Oh man, if they let you play as Satan's forces, and play on the internet for free, AND I can buy this used, I'm so bringing my Starcraft knowledge to Satan's side of the battle.

Can you imagine it? Not only can we own idiot newbies, but idiot fundie newbies ;)

Posted: 2005-07-04 02:13am
by Exonerate
Badme wrote:Oh man, if they let you play as Satan's forces, and play on the internet for free, AND I can buy this used, I'm so bringing my Starcraft knowledge to Satan's side of the battle.

Can you imagine it? Not only can we own idiot newbies, but idiot fundie newbies ;)
They'd probably alter game balance so evil never wins. Or do an America's Army approach - your side is always the "good" guys, so they never lose!

Posted: 2005-07-04 02:16am
by Losonti Tokash
Exonerate wrote:They'd probably alter game balance so evil never wins. Or do an America's Army approach - your side is always the "good" guys, so they never lose!
Which is how you're able to see bad guys firing pillaged M-16s on full auto. :lol:

Posted: 2005-07-04 11:35am
by Darth Wong
"Morally just and family-friendly games?" :roll:

Yeah, that's a great message for your children, Reverend. Tell your little son Timmy that his non-Christian playmates at school are going to become his mortal enemies soon, and he's going to have to kill them in the name of God.

Posted: 2005-07-04 12:05pm
by YT300000
Well, it IS going to be a shock, so better start getting him ready now.

:wink:

Posted: 2005-07-04 12:57pm
by FSTargetDrone
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Christian Gaming also provides a convenient Rating System. That's right, the higher a game's Christian Sense, the more likely your eternal soul is to be saved after playing.
Christian Sense (CS)

This is simply how well this game fares from a Christian perspective. We do take into account the type of game and its intent. For most game makers the intent is simply to make a fun game that sells well. In general, there isn't a dark agenda to destroy Christianity and promote Satan's agenda. Those that do include satanic/occult symbols do so for the shock value rather than out of any conviction those symbols hold valuable life lessons. They are trying to take advantage people's emotional reactions to help promote their product.

Usually games simply don't take into account Christian sensibilities and when they do it's usually haphazard, stereotypical or just plain dumb. For those that do intentionally offend Christians it's because we're an easy target that's relatively easy to manipulate. They are counting on the shock value and the publicity such offense generates for them.

The game, Postal (which is a pretty lousy game) sold hundreds of thousands of copies, helped greatly by the controversy and publicity the subject matter gave them. This is because those who play the game are not dissuaded by the controversial subject matter. In fact, that's what draws them to the game. The controversy just helped get the word out.

And so, our offense becomes part of their marketing strategy. We don't intend to take the marketing bait. That's why we have the Stupid and Ignorant categories. Keep in mind that this category isn't there just to judge secular games. Christian games could potentially fit any of the categories.

0=Antichrist: (Satan's pet project) Christian Sensibilities intentionally and highly offended or blatantly presents clearly heretical doctrine (see our statement of belief for the basis on which we make this judgment).

1=Stupid: Non-Christian game tries hard to offend but in tired, lame, clueless and stereotypical ways. Christian game presenting Christianity in a stupid or foolish fashion that provides good laughs for non-Christians and offers up new avenues to ridicule Jesus Christ (foolishness isn't a biblical mandate).

2=Ignorant: Stumbles over Christian Sensibilities or handles Christian themes clumsily. Unintentionally propagates lies or myths or lesser heresies (yes, there is such a thing). Hidden agendas weigh it down. Bumbling.

3=OK: Secular games which are not particularly insensitive to Christianity or have minor to non-existent problems. A Christian game that handles the Christian presentation reasonably well even though it can be heavy handed or preachy at times. A Christian game in this category has little appeal to non-Christians.

4=Heavenly: has content that is positive toward Christian sensibilities or does a good job of presenting Christian themes, even if not always in a positive light. Intelligent or just plain good. Both Christians and Non-Christians can enjoy this.

5=Second Coming: Intentionally promotes Christian values and sensibilities and does it well without being preachy. Or, it treats Christianity with honesty and/or respect without the intent to cause harm, even if the outcome isn't particularly flattering.

Posted: 2005-07-04 01:09pm
by The Grim Squeaker
My fundie sense is going nuts :lol:
0=Antichrist: (Satan's pet project) Christian Sensibilities intentionally and highly offended or blatantly presents clearly heretical doctrine
Please tell me this isnt real or that they dont brand every non christian action/rpg game with this.

And I thought that my country had it bad with fundies, my heart goes out to you.

Posted: 2005-07-04 02:29pm
by FSTargetDrone
the .303 bookworm wrote:My fundie sense is going nuts :lol:
0=Antichrist: (Satan's pet project) Christian Sensibilities intentionally and highly offended or blatantly presents clearly heretical doctrine
Please tell me this isnt real or that they dont brand every non christian action/rpg game with this.
Well, aside from my nonsensical bit above the original quote block, all the rest of it is taken from the Christian Gaming website, so what else can I say? :D

Incidentally, I tried accessing their forums, but they aren't working. I had been curious to see if their boards were full of True Believers gushing over the latest releases of some Christian-themed waste of programming, but no such luck. Just as well. I can only stand to have so much crap like this on my screen at once.

Welcome to fundie-world.

Posted: 2005-07-04 05:08pm
by Temjin
I am sick and tired of you people calling every damn Christian on the net a fundie.

Did you even look at the reviews before you started sounding the Fundie alert? He reviewed alot of secular games:

FFVII got a three on that scale.

Resident Evil got a 3 on that scale. He even enjoyed playing the game.

Onimusha got a 2.5 on that scale.

Hell, Diablo II got a 2.

This is a mark of Christian just letting other Christians know how alot of games stack up with Christianity. There is nothing wrong with this.

Not every Christian is fundie.

Posted: 2005-07-04 06:22pm
by Arthur_Tuxedo
Yes, I was quite disappointed by that website. I expected hours of enjoyment reading frothy-mouthed diatribes against my favorite heathen games.

Posted: 2005-07-04 07:42pm
by Darth Wong
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Yes, I was quite disappointed by that website. I expected hours of enjoyment reading frothy-mouthed diatribes against my favorite heathen games.
After CAPAlert, nothing else could measure up.

Posted: 2005-07-04 07:48pm
by SecondStorm
Darth Wong wrote:"Morally just and family-friendly games?" :roll:

Yeah, that's a great message for your children, Reverend. Tell your little son Timmy that his non-Christian playmates at school are going to become his mortal enemies soon, and he's going to have to kill them in the name of God.
Bloddy disgusting when you think about it. (which Ill freely admit I didnt at first)

I do like the theme for a *fantasy* setting. The thing is thats not how this is going to be marketed.

Posted: 2005-07-04 07:51pm
by SecondStorm
Temjin wrote:I am sick and tired of you people calling every damn Christian on the net a fundie.
Who is "you people" and do they (we ?) call every Christian on the net a fundie ?
This is a mark of Christian just letting other Christians know how alot of games stack up with Christianity. There is nothing wrong with this.
People can say whatever they want. I dont care.
Not every Christian is fundie.
How deep Einstein. :roll:

Posted: 2005-07-04 08:01pm
by Temjin
SecondStorm wrote:Who is "you people" and do they (we ?) call every Christian on the net a fundie ?
It was a general rant directed at the two posts above my previous post and any others who might have done something like that in the past (and it has happened numerous times in the past). I guess I should have made that more clear.

The word "fundie" loses something if we try to use it to label every religious person.
People can say whatever they want. I dont care.
Good for you. If you believe that, then the post was not directed at you.
How deep Einstein. :roll:
I agree that it should be quite obvious. But some people need reminding every now and then.