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For me, the number one all time twist goes to KOTOR

You are Revan

Next would be the original Starflight,

The Ancients are Endorium Fuel

Anymore you can think of?

Yeah, I totally didn't see the Revan part coming into play. I figured Revan was just a vague backstory nobody, not unlike Plageus in RotS. But ooof.

Lesse, next shock... WC3, when you find out that Hobbes was the traitor, and kills Cobra and steals the Excalibur. That was surprising. Or hell, in WC2, when you figure that Jazz was the (other) traitor and steals the Sabre. Not so much for Minx, who was the (yet again) other traitor and steals the Morningstar... yeah. Pattern kinda got too noticible.

I liked Fallout's twist at the end though. Not quite a twist, but very beautiful way to go, while unexpected.

System Shock 2 surprised me, when you enter that floor where you're going to meet a doctor who'se been guiding you... when SHODAN reveals that she's killed her, and was using her image and voice to manipulate you. Love that SHODAN.

Hands down for KOTOR, even though it was kinda ruined for me before I played it.

After that, even though I saw it coming, Kabol's emergence in Tiberian Sun: Firestorm was pretty good.

I liked Final Fantasy 6's twist.
The world ends about halfway through the game.

Also Metal Gear Solid 2 had a big one. I'm not talking about the whole AI and the Patriots thing. It's much more straigtforward.
One word: "Raiden".
Like him or hate him they kept the main character of a high profile game a secret all the way up to the release. That's pretty impressive.

KOTOR, though you can see it when you play it a second time

"The Jedi don't kill their prisoners, nobody deserves execution, no matter what their crimes (are)"

"We Generally do not train adults, but you are a special case."

"The Force can terrible things to the mind, take away you're memories, your very indenty" (or word to that effect).

Chrono Trigger. Watching Crono leap forewards at Lavos...and then be BURNED TO ASH.

Warcraft 3...when the hero and main-character-ish Arthas suddenly turns into the villain of the latter two-thirds of the game, plus the expansion. He was shaping up to be a brutal, but effective champion, as opposed to Uther's namby-pambyness...and then oof.

Colony Wars: Vengance. Not so much a twist for the PLAYER, but the moment the main character realizes that he's waged an entire war for a lie...

Lord Revan wrote:KOTOR, though you can see it when you play it a second time

"The Jedi don't kill their prisoners, nobody deserves execution, no matter what their crimes (are)"

"We Generally do not train adults, but you are a special case."

"The Force can terrible things to the mind, take away you're memories, your very indenty" (or word to that effect).

Well, considering the fact that your shown flash backs of each of those clues as the revelation happens...

In Shadow Man for the Playstation, I liked how it was revealed at the end that the "Prophecy of the Old Gods" you've been following the whole game turns out to not only be a lie, but a lie from the chief villain Legion.

Legion : " There were no 'Gods' in the old days; there was only Me."

Phantasy star 2... when you find out that the dark force isn't even the last boss... and then finding out that the true villian of the game is us! (As in Earthlings) blew my mind away

Sam Or I wrote:For me, the number one all time twist goes to KOTOR

You are Revan

My roommate and I figured it out at the Jedi training. We actually voted it "most obvious plot twist of the year" when a group of us were discussing what had been released that year.


I'd have to say Privateer 2 had an interesting one, where you are your enemies' boss (although nobody realizes it except your younger brother, who has taken over your position). Plus the film parts had Clive Owen and Christopher Walken...best cast in a computer game ever .

I don't see it mentioned yet, Deus Ex, when you find out your brother is working for the terrorists (or whomever they are, I kinda forget the names).

Starcraft: Brood Wars.

Accessing the bonus mission, and finding out that Duran is, in fact, an agent of the supposedly extinct Xel-Naga and has completed work on a Protoss-Zerg hybrid.

Doom 3:

Finding out that Sargeant Kelly was corrupted by the demons for quite a while.

Diablo 2:

Discovering that what Marius thought was Tyreal, was in fact Baal.

Freespace 2:

Defeating the Sathanas juggernaught, and pressing forward full steam, heady from the victory, only to have your ass handed to you by a fleet of several hundred more Sathanas juggernaughts.

~Damienkitty

Wing Commander 3: Hobbs betrayel

Max Payne 2: Vladimir Lem's betrayal


And everyone's favorite classic:
Toad: "Sorry, but our princess is in another castle"

Beyond Good & Evil - Pey'j was infected by the DomZ. That was a bit of a shock.

The aforementioned bit in Chrono Trigger. You don't see many games that kill off their main character (however temporarily).

Good, spoil CT for me I know i'm behind the times but I'm only up to the first meeting with Lavos .

Starcraft: Brood Wars
The part where Kerrigan outsmarted everyone, at many points she seemed to soften up and at one point it appeared she was back among the good guys, but all the while she was manipulating most of the characters into doing her dirty work!

Argosh wrote:Starcraft: Brood Wars
The part where Kerrigan outsmarted everyone, at many points she seemed to soften up and at one point it appeared she was back among the good guys, but all the while she was manipulating most of the characters into doing her dirty work!

Thief: the Dark Project. Hey, guess what? Those gruesome Pagan rhymes and the Hammerites' stupid sermons? They were true, and the Trickster just bent you over and raped you with a tree branch, manfool.

Planescape: Torment may not have had a single moment when you go, "Holy shit! Wow!" but pretty much the whole game was a little like that. I was especially disturbed by the reading of the tattoo "Don't trust the skull."

FreeSpace 2 with the Sathanas.

That was just evil. It flattens the fleet, gets through the destroyed node, finally dies...
And then, just after you've got back into routine NTF breaking... an entire FLEET of Sathanas arrives and humiliates you.
FreeSpace 2 has the best gaming moments ever, I swear.

Vanas wrote:FreeSpace 2 with the Sathanas.

That was just evil. It flattens the fleet, gets through the destroyed node, finally dies...
And then, just after you've got back into routine NTF breaking... an entire FLEET of Sathanas arrives and humiliates you.
FreeSpace 2 has the best gaming moments ever, I swear.

I'll take Freespace 1...
Reguler convoy mission.
Then these BLACK things, homing missles are useless, you can barely see them, dots all over your radar..
Next the Lucifier... the cut scene. The arrogence that we could beat them..and the Lucifer.

Thats not saying FS2 didn't have its moments.
The Sathanas yes.
The knosses hole still functioning. The NTF being a front for Bosch's attempts to communicate with the Shivans.
But it didn't have the Lucifer, because the Sath could be killed.
The Lucifer was only killable by a plot device.

Original Halo, 343 Guilty Spark level. Up until that point, the game was all about fighting the Convenant, saving humanity, and finding a way to utilize the ring to save Earth.

The level just feels different as you walk through the swamp, see the strange radar blips, crashed drop ships, and feeling Covenant. Once you get down into the facility, just seeing the Covenant troops hiding behind barriers and the hallway that was coated in Elite blood, was really creepy. When you become stuck in the large room with Private Jenkins, the doors blow inward, and these things that you have never seen before swarm towards you. I figured that they were a completely new alien race until you head further into the level and see the infected humans. When I first played Halo, I had NO idea about the Flood (kudos to Bungie for keeping that a secret).

Oni Koneko Damien wrote:Diablo 2:

Discovering that what Marius thought was Tyreal, was in fact Baal.

You're kidding, right? I figured that out about five seconds into his first appearance. The only even remotely surprising twist in either of those games was in the origional, when your hero, after fighting into the depths of hell and slaying Diablo, decides to stab the damned soul stone shard into his own forehead.

I'm not sure if it qualifies as surpirising, but for just a wierd game ending, the thing sleeping in that giant egg in Zelda: Links Awakening turning out to be a big ass whale with tiny little wings is way up there.

Tiger Ace wrote: I'll take Freespace 1...

Ah, that said, I haven't played FS1. I picked up a copy yesterday for 50p, but it refuses to run on the laptop. I'll try it on the main PC later.

Tiger Ace wrote:Good, spoil CT for me I know i'm behind the times but I'm only up to the first meeting with Lavos .

*spoilers* in the thread title.

As an aside, wtf is up with 'Tiger Ace?'

Vanas wrote:

Tiger Ace wrote: I'll take Freespace 1...

Ah, that said, I haven't played FS1. I picked up a copy yesterday for 50p, but it refuses to run on the laptop. I'll try it on the main PC later.

Ah, drop it.
FS2 source code was released a few years ago.
Go get version 3.6.5, get the Freespace 1 port,which includes the expansion, follow instructions to get all the voice acting and voila. You won't get the (IMO) emotional cutscenes though.

White, Away From Home. Or I would be getting kicked in the ass by you in HW2 by now.