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Posted: **2005-07-07 05:44pm**

From here.

SlashDot wrote: accihap writes "A week after word leaked out that Microsoft was negotiating an acquisition deal with Claria (See recent /. coverage), spyware researchers have noticed that the Windows antispyware application has downgraded Claria's Gator detections and changed the recommended action from 'quarantine' to 'ignore.' "

Check out the link, they even have screenshots of the program's new settings. Good job, Microsoft, I'm uninstalling your program. Don't fuck with the consumer, ok?

EDIT: Quote tags were messed up, sorry.

Posted: **2005-07-07 05:53pm**

Wasn't an article about this posted fairly recently? Or am I confusing things? *scratches head*

Posted: **2005-07-07 05:54pm**

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA ... thank you, this gets bookmarked and forwarded to the folks in Marketing for a handy answer any time a customer asks us why they shouldn't just rely on the boys & girls in Redmond for their security.

Posted: **2005-07-07 05:58pm**

General Zod wrote:Wasn't an article about this posted fairly recently? Or am I confusing things? *scratches head*

No, you're thinking of how MS bought out Gator. Note the coincidence between the purchase and this 'upgrade' to MSAntiSpyware.

EDIT: Thread in question is here.

Posted: **2005-07-07 06:03pm**

Badme wrote:
General Zod wrote:Wasn't an article about this posted fairly recently? Or am I confusing things? *scratches head*
No, you're thinking of how MS bought out Gator. Note the coincidence between the purchase and this 'upgrade' to MSAntiSpyware.

EDIT: Thread in question is here.

Ah, okay. Just confusing threads. Nevermind me then.

Posted: **2005-07-07 06:07pm**

[linux user]*Cackles[/linux user]

Actually, I didn't think they would do this, due to the PR ramifications.

Posted: **2005-07-07 06:10pm**

Ugh. Just when I was considering downloading it.

Well, thats that. No M$ antispyware for me.

Posted: **2005-07-07 07:54pm**

If this was done be anyone else who made an anti-spyware program I would at least be suprised, but comming from microsoft this is no suprise

Posted: **2005-07-07 07:55pm**

Meh, I'll still use it, since SSD and AdAware still recognize and obliterate Gator. MSAS is still a good supplemental program, and the wiki-style feedback feature means more people are made aware of more bullshit quicker.

Posted: **2005-07-08 04:02am**

Damn, this is annoying, Il'l keep using it though since it is good and fast but I guess Il'l have to re-install my spybot s&D instead of leaving it for this and my precious Ad-aware1.6

Posted: **2005-07-08 11:44am**

Why am I not surprised by this. I have never relied on MS anti spyware. Now there is a better reason then "I simply don't want their products"

Posted: **2005-07-08 06:42pm**

Despite this , I'll still be using their anti-spyware utility, it's a good solid spyware killer. Gator is common enough, I'm sure Ad-Aware or Spybot S&D can get it anyway.

Posted: **2005-07-09 05:45am**

I've always found the alternatives do a better job anyway. MSAS has always been complete shit in my experience.

Posted: **2005-07-09 07:30am**

*Has just noticed*

Hey, so *that's* what that Gator crap on my PC is! I've had it for *years*, and neither Norton or Ad-Aware seem able to get rid of it.

Posted: **2005-07-09 04:55pm**

Badme wrote:From here.

SlashDot wrote: accihap writes "A week after word leaked out that Microsoft was negotiating an acquisition deal with Claria (See recent /. coverage), spyware researchers have noticed that the Windows antispyware application has downgraded Claria's Gator detections and changed the recommended action from 'quarantine' to 'ignore.' "
Check out the link, they even have screenshots of the program's new settings. Good job, Microsoft, I'm uninstalling your program. Don't fuck with the consumer, ok?

EDIT: Quote tags were messed up, sorry.

That's like condoms ignoring sperm...

Posted: **2005-07-09 06:41pm**

And here is microsofts response to people complaining about it

Dear Customer,

This week we received some questions around Microsoft's classification of Claria software in our Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware (Beta). We wanted to take this opportunity to clear up any misconceptions and explain our current policies and practices.

As you may know, the analysis of software is based on a single set of objective criteria, which can be found on our web site: Windows AntiSpyware (Beta): Analysis approach and categories.

Microsoft offers all software companies the opportunity to request a review of how Microsoft classifies their products through our vendor dispute process. In January, Claria filed a request for Microsoft to reevaluate some of its products. Upon review of their software against our criteria, we determined that continued detection of Claria's products was indeed appropriate. We also decided that adjustments should be made to the classification of Claria software in order to be fair and consistent with how Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) handles similar software from other vendors. At the end of March, we communicated to Claria the result of our analysis through our standard process.

We take software analysis for Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) very seriously and handle all vendor requests in the same manner. All software is reviewed under the same objective criteria, detection policies, and analysis process. Absolutely no exceptions were made for Claria. Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) continues to notify our users when Claria software is found on a computer, and it offers our users the option to remove the software if they desire.

Microsoft is committed to helping protect our customers from spyware and other unwanted software by providing guidance and technology solutions. We firmly believe that people should have complete control over what runs on their computers.

Today, anti-spyware vendors use different approaches, definitions, and types of criteria for identifying and categorizing spyware and other potentially unwanted software. This has limited the industry’s ability to have a broad, coordinated impact in addressing the problem. That is a key reason Microsoft is a founding member of the Anti-Spyware Coalition, a group of technology companies and anti-spyware companies working alongside public interest groups to address key spyware issues.

Meanwhile, Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) is an initial beta release and we continue to receive valuable feedback from customers, which is helping our development of the final version of Windows AntiSpyware. We encourage people to provide feedback at WASFeed@microsoft.com and stay up-to-date on the latest developments on Windows AntiSpyware at Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) Home.

Thank you for your continued interest and support of Windows AntiSpyware.

Sincerely,

Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) Team

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Posted: **2005-07-09 06:45pm**

Wait, does it still recognize or not? If it just changes the suggested responce, who cares? If it no longer offers the user the option to remove it than yes, this isn't very nice.

Posted: **2005-07-09 07:03pm**

Microsoft Non-Answer Translated into Plain Engrish wrote:Our Software am Beta! We want code software high standard for you. We suck Claria cock on request, yes? We fuck customer in ass, yes? That why we stop detect Claria with Anti Spyware!

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Posted: **2005-07-09 10:52pm**

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Microsoft Non-Answer Translated into Plain Engrish wrote:Our Software am Beta! We want code software high standard for you. We suck Claria cock on request, yes? We fuck customer in ass, yes? That why we stop detect Claria with Anti Spyware!

All Your Base Are Belong to Us! KEKEKEKEKEKEKE ^_^

"Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) continues to notify our users when Claria software is found on a computer, and it offers our users the option to remove the software if they desire."

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