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For my incredibly wanked out rig, I've narrowed the field down to two very high end CPUs. The question remains, which one do I get? I will primarily be gaming, but I would really like to run some programs in the background while doing so (and probably some video editing and a few other things). Will I sacrifice gaming performance going for the 4800+ X2 over the FX57, and if so, will it be worth it for the convienence of being able to run a number of apps at the same time?

Which video editing programs? I would be very surprised if Premiere wasn't multi-threaded.

Ypoknons wrote:Which video editing programs? I would be very surprised if Premiere wasn't multi-threaded.

I have no idea yet (I don't even have a digital camcorder yet, which I'm planning to buy along this new comp). Reading over some anandtech.com reviews, the X2 4800+ is looking like the better choice overall, but I'm still undecided.

I'd go with the 4800+. I can't stand sitting around twiddling my thumbs while some CPU-intensive process is going on.

I'm planning my next system, and I'm going with a 4800 or 4600. I've been spoiled by my P4's hyperthreading, and there's no way I'm going back to a single core system - for exact reason Arthur stated. The 57 might get you a few more frames in current games, but the 4800 still blows the crap out of most everything else on the market (plus the second core can handle system overhead tasks, which evens it up a bit against the 57).

I can't wait to see what UT2007 does with dual cores, since its suppose to support them.

Ok then, 4800+ it is. I hope it'll be able to keep pace with my 7800GTX SLI.

Hehe, I waiting for 7800 Ultras. Rumor has it that they'll be released when ATI gets around to launching the R520. Talk about pissing on someone's parade.

Tycho, is this home built or are getting it from Alienware, Voodoo or the like?

I thought the 7800 GTX was the "ultra" version, seeing as how it costs 600 god damn dollars. Should potential buyers look into a 30 year fixed interest loan?

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I thought the 7800 GTX was the "ultra" version, seeing as how it costs 600 god damn dollars. Should potential buyers look into a 30 year fixed interest loan?

There are already down to the "saner" $490-$550 online.

Ultra is to be a 500mhtz+ unknow GDDR3 speed with 512 Megs of Ram.

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I thought the 7800 GTX was the "ultra" version, seeing as how it costs 600 god damn dollars. Should potential buyers look into a 30 year fixed interest loan?

You know, computers used to be a lot more expensive... over $400 for a hard drive, over $1000 for a CPU. Yet people still shelled out for very expensive upgrades so as to be able to play games. I don't think a couple of ultra-high-end graphics cards will sink the market, especially when there's plenty of far cheaper and still very effective components out there.

Hell, I remember how expensive computers could be. My father's work computer for some years was a Mac IIfx with 32MB of RAM and a 24-bit video card. That box with 8MB of RAM was $10K on release, and his work upgraded it to 32MB of RAM at a time when you paid $50/MB or so.

Yes, of course I remember those days, but things have gotten cheaper since then, and I don't like seeing graphics card prices rising with each new iteration when I doubt there is any significant increase in manufacturing costs to accompany them.

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Yes, of course I remember those days, but things have gotten cheaper since then, and I don't like seeing graphics card prices rising with each new iteration when I doubt there is any significant increase in manufacturing costs to accompany them.

Well, prices are dictated by supply/demand and such cards are likely to be supply-constrained simply because they are so complex. I doubt the yield on the 7800GTX is very good.

True. I just hope the market shows that most people are not willing to pay these prices, so that they won't start at $600 even when they can crank the cards out by the millions.

I just hope the market shows that most people are not willing to pay these prices

If most people were willing to pay $600 for a graphics card, then the highest-end consumer cards would be priced at about $1000. As it is, the sweet spot for video cards seems to be the $200 range... while the $600 range is reserved for the low-volume, high-bragging rights category.

Tycho, I've allready talked to you for months on your fap fap over high end CPU's... take duel core, but in the interest of your bank account, your wife and your time with kids, do without