Embracer Of Darkness wrote:
So... Do I choose the DFI motherboard because it's a higher quality, more reliable motherboard with a fantastic design plan, or do I choose the Asus board because of the brand name? That's an appeal to popularity if I ever saw one.
Good job on missing the point, agian lets try this agian. First time success(In the high end gaming market as you pointed out) VS Another success from a company with a long history of success in the high end gamer market.
Keep in mind the product in question, both of them have one "Best MB awards" from various websites from 3DGamers to [H]ardocp to Tom's Hardware in a roughly equal amount. Both of these boards are quality products which on a price and preformance basis are near identical. However the Asus has more extras and a solid reputation(Meaning good long-term software support) while the DFI has an extra mm and a half around the socket and according to you "higher" quality parts.
Mr Bean wrote:By your own aurgment, I should have been seeing and hearing about this problem. The aurgment presented so far is that Japanese transistors are better than Chineese ones... Why? Cause they said so, either that or the assume the reason being is one so obviously that everyone inculding Alabama dirt farmers know why Japanese products are just better.
That's a strawman if I ever saw one. I never said that transistors failing was a common problem, just that it's better to have higher-quality hardware. In fact, I
said in my last post that other hardware (such as the PSU) is usually the cause of motherboards shorting.
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You missed the point
Part Two Why are the transistors produced in Japan better than those in China as you maintain(What will saying that Chinese transistors are crappy vs the wonderful Japanese transistors I mearly asked why this is.)
I'm not aurging that transistor failure is a massive, or minor problem, the only thing agian I'm asking you is
Why are parts made in Japan better than those made in China?
Mr Bean wrote:Of course I contend that its based on company and divison not country not country of origin.
Of course, and so do I. But the simple fact is that the components (transistors in particular) for DFI motherboards are specially manufactured in Japan and to a high standard. It's a simple fact most companies ship from places like China and Thaiwan because it's cheap labour and cheap cost. God forbid a company care a little more about what actually goes into their product.
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I see, so the common Red Chinaman is incapable of making high quality parts and must set low quality standards(Or Lower than Japan's standards)
Do you acutal even know what standards Japan, or China for that matter sets? Which standards in question are lower than Japan.
The reason I'm pushing you on this is because the "Japan=High Standards" is a brain bug in most industries and its something that often touted but rarley real.
Actually, I decided to take that tone in response to your "oh I've administrated eleventy billion PCs blar blar blar" blow-harding rubbish.
Hello, me job, I fix broken things, offical its computers and electronics, praticuly its everything that beeps and boops or has a grounded connector. Thats expected in my job set at some commands.
As for your demand I benchmark them each indivudaly(I guess because unless you do them all, you have no idea what your doing
) these are Goverment computers, everything from Dell OptiPlex's and Compaq Slimlines to Solarius Sun's. Some with crippled or stripped MB's with access to the BIOS either removed or enabled only with plugged in daughter cards. Only goverment approved software can be loaded and must all go through Big Navy, NSG's(Which as of a month ago we got another re-org and were called something else can't remeber what)
Its not like I can throw 3dMark or Sandra on there and bust out a 24 hour burn in session at will.
