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Poisoned Torrents Plague Mybittorrent

Posted: 2005-09-26 09:58am
by The Grim Squeaker
"One of the biggest problems with the Fasttrack network has been poisoning. This is the practice of sharing a file on a P2P network that looks like the real thing, but isn't.
Bittorrent until recently has been largely immune to this. Now a new type of torrent is tricking bittorrent sites to rising to the top of the download lists."
From the article: "According to Rex, about 50 new torrents have been released from what he calls "fake" trackers (~31 in total.) These trackers are seemingly part of an elaborate plot to infiltrate the BitTorrent community with intentionally corrupt files. T
hese movie and film titles are specifically designed to report false information to trackers, thereby gaining artificially inflated popularity."
It was obvious that this would start sooner or later, still that doesnt make this any better or change the fact that you can download episodes etc. over bittorrent.
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Posted: 2005-09-26 10:32am
by Stark
I've recently heard this sort of thing has become far more widespread and organised lately. I've never downloaded anything fake (I certainly wouldn't use a US tracker, however) but a file I looked at once was apparently the same 1034 bytes repeated for the ~3Gb file. Apparently entire trackers (like mamatorrent) are crammed with such fake files.

Posted: 2005-09-26 12:00pm
by GrandMasterTerwynn
Hah, so poisoning has afflicted the torrents too now? I'm not surprised . . . after all, the conventional P2P networks have been so thoroughly poisoned that the signal-to-noise ratio has taken a dive off a very steep cliff. This is sad, but all the more reason to get stuff legitimately.

Posted: 2005-09-26 12:12pm
by Uraniun235
This sort of problem is handily avoided by joining private trackers and P2P hubs.

Posted: 2005-09-26 12:45pm
by The Grim Squeaker
Uraniun235 wrote:This sort of problem is handily avoided by joining private trackers and P2P hubs.
Such as?
I genrally use mini-nova, pirate bay and iso-hunt to download various legal shows and, er Linux stuff.

Posted: 2005-09-26 12:46pm
by Arthur_Tuxedo
Uraniun235 wrote:This sort of problem is handily avoided by joining private trackers and P2P hubs.
Yes, but that costs money. Most people probably think if you're going to spend money, you might as well just buy the products.

Posted: 2005-09-26 04:28pm
by Darth Wong
There is a limit to how much time, effort, and money an average person will spend on piracy in order to avoid spending money on legal products. Take my favourite game, Rome: Total War. I know there were pirate sites out there peddling this thing, so am I really going to fuck around looking for it? Downloading more than a gigabyte of data and then looking for installation hacks and other such bullshit so I can finally have my kludgy install with no manuals or installation discs? Fuck no, I'll just plop down fifty bucks, buy a perfectly legal copy of the game, and be on my way.

For the majority of consumers, if the industry can just make it a pain in the ass to pirate, that will stop piracy even if it's still possible.

Posted: 2005-09-26 07:10pm
by Uraniun235
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:
Uraniun235 wrote:This sort of problem is handily avoided by joining private trackers and P2P hubs.
Yes, but that costs money.
Depends on the community you're joining.

Posted: 2005-09-26 07:38pm
by General Zod
Uraniun235 wrote:
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:
Uraniun235 wrote:This sort of problem is handily avoided by joining private trackers and P2P hubs.
Yes, but that costs money.
Depends on the community you're joining.
Several of the more reputable BT trackers cost nothing to sign up. The ones that make you pay are usually scams. Plus, some have the added bonus of making it so that even if you register, you have to ask permission to upload files before you can do so, and uploading trojans, fake files, or bad files can lead to a ban from that site.

Posted: 2005-09-26 08:57pm
by Drooling Iguana
Darth Wong wrote:There is a limit to how much time, effort, and money an average person will spend on piracy in order to avoid spending money on legal products. Take my favourite game, Rome: Total War. I know there were pirate sites out there peddling this thing, so am I really going to fuck around looking for it? Downloading more than a gigabyte of data and then looking for installation hacks and other such bullshit so I can finally have my kludgy install with no manuals or installation discs? Fuck no, I'll just plop down fifty bucks, buy a perfectly legal copy of the game, and be on my way.

For the majority of consumers, if the industry can just make it a pain in the ass to pirate, that will stop piracy even if it's still possible.
Unfortunately, the industry seems more focused on making it a pain in the ass to play games and other media legitimately these days.