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AMD FX-60 Powers Superfast PCs

Posted: 2006-01-11 06:58am
by theski
Let the War of the Chips... continue
AMD today launched its top-of-the-line Athlon 64 FX-60 CPU, and PC World's exclusive tests show the pricey new processor is indeed dominant. The processor powered a pair of our test PCs to the best benchmark scores we've ever seen and outpaced a reference system using Intel's latest Extreme Edition processor.

How much faster is the FX-60? Our fastest test machine notched a WorldBench 5 score about 8 percent higher than our previous top dog, a comparably configured PC with AMD's 2.4-GHz Athlon 64 X2 4800+ CPU.

FX Goes Dual-Core

The FX-60 processor marks the transition of AMD's premium line of FX processors to dual-core technology, replacing the single-core Athlon 64 FX-55, which also runs at 2.6 GHz. The single-core FX-57, which runs at 2.8 GHz, will remain available until it is replaced by a future 2.8-GHz successor to the FX-60, according to AMD.


More evolution than revolution, the $1031 FX-60 CPU is essentially a faster version of the same core (code-named Toledo) that comprises the dual-core, 2.4-GHz Athlon 64 X2 4400+ and the 2.2-GHz Athlon 64 X2 4800+ chips. It comes with the same 1MB of Level 2 cache and incorporates the same on-chip memory controller that works only with DDR RAM. (Intel's processors support the faster DDR2 memory standard; however, AMD-based systems consistently outperform comparable Intel-based systems.) AMD expects to launch a CPU with DDR2 support by year's end, according to the company.

Fast, Pricey New Systems

We tested three new shipping FX-60 systems: the $4250 Poly 939N4-SLI2/FX60 from Polywell, the $4499 Ultimate M6 Sniper II from ABS, and the $3499 Gamer Ultra XLC from CyberPower. Each of the systems came with almost identical hardware: an ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard, two high-performance 74GB Western Digital Raptor hard drives striped in a RAID 0 array, and two SLI EVGA e-GeForce 7800 GTX graphics cards. The CyberPower and Polywell machines had 512MB of graphics memory; ABS's had 256MB.


Two of the systems, the Ultimate M6 Sniper II and the Poly 939N4-SLI2/FX60, came with 2GB of RAM and posted record-breaking scores of 141 and 140, respectively, on the PC World Test Center's WorldBench 5 benchmark. The previous top mark of 130 was set by Xi Computer's MTower 64 AGE-SLI, which runs on AMD's 2.4-GHz Athlon 64 X2 4800+. The third FX-60 system, the Gamer Ultra XLC, came with 1GB of RAM and turned in a WorldBench 5 score of 123.

Intel's New Extreme Edition

Intel isn't ceding the high-end market to AMD's FX line. On January 16 the company will launch its latest high-end processor, the Pentium Extreme Edition 955. No vendor systems featuring the new chip are available yet, but a PC World-built reference system featuring the processor scored higher than any Intel-based PC we've tested. However, it was no match for the FX-60 systems.


Intel's new dual-core 3.46-MHz chip, which will sell for about $1000, comes with 2MB of Level 2 cache per core (double that of its successor, the Pentium Extreme Edition 840).


Other new features include a faster frontside bus (now running at 1066 MHz), which connects the CPU with RAM, as well as Intel's Virtualization Technology, which allows a PC with the appropriate software to run multiple operating systems simultaneously without having to reboot.


We benchmarked the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 using a reference system that included an Intel D975XBS motherboard; 2GB of DDR2-887 RAM from Crucial Technologies; a single EVGA e-GeForce 7800 GTX KO graphics card with 256MB of memory; two 7200-rpm, 160GB Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS hard drives striped in a RAID 0 array; and an Antec Turbo-Cool 510 ATX-PFC power supply.


The Intel system's WorldBench score of 109 was more than 10 percent faster than any dual-core Intel-based system we've tested, but it paled in comparison to the new FX-60-based machines.


High-end systems running on the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 will be available on January 16 from Alienware, CyberPower, Polywell, and others, according to the companies. Dell said it will launch a system using the chip sometime in the first quarter of 2006.

CHIPS

Posted: 2006-01-11 08:59am
by Ace Pace
And once again, AMD proves that Netburst should be retired as fast as possible.

However, this chip has one very large strike against it in the OC community(which are large buyers of these chips), it can't OC, at all. Every single site reports caps at 2.8GHZ.

Posted: 2006-01-11 01:06pm
by Netko
Why the fuck would you want to overclock a 1000$+ processor anyway? Its not like its going to be struggling to do anything anytime soon.

Posted: 2006-01-11 01:13pm
by Ace Pace
mmar wrote:Why the fuck would you want to overclock a 1000$+ processor anyway? Its not like its going to be struggling to do anything anytime soon.
What else are you wasting 1000$ on other then an unlocked CPU?

Posted: 2006-01-11 01:51pm
by InnocentBystander
Ace Pace wrote:
mmar wrote:Why the fuck would you want to overclock a 1000$+ processor anyway? Its not like its going to be struggling to do anything anytime soon.
What else are you wasting 1000$ on other then an unlocked CPU?
Maybe they don't want you to melt the processor?

Posted: 2006-01-11 02:07pm
by Mr Bean
InnocentBystander wrote: Maybe they don't want you to melt the processor?
I run my cpu's a three degrees below absolute zero, what your not using quantum themeral shifting?-Typical high end Overclocker.

Anyone who can shell out the $1000 for this proccess can shell out the $200 for a phase shifter(Refrigridation cooling) or a Peltier + Watercooling system. Could just be a bad first batch of CPU's on why they have not hit 3.0 Ghtz with the 60 yet.

Posted: 2006-01-11 02:11pm
by Ace Pace
Mr Bean wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote: Maybe they don't want you to melt the processor?
I run my cpu's a three degrees below absolute zero, what your not using quantum themeral shifting?-Typical high end Overclocker.

Anyone who can shell out the $1000 for this proccess can shell out the $200 for a phase shifter(Refrigridation cooling) or a Peltier + Watercooling system. Could just be a bad first batch of CPU's on why they have not hit 3.0 Ghtz with the 60 yet.
What He Said.

If its a bad revision, then its a suprise, or maybe its the X2s ceiling with that kind of sane Voltage, then again, I havn't seen any review that used a DFI as a base so we can't really talk about FX overclocking without a DFI board.

EDIT: Typical high end OCers(the minority) run on atleast -25C, the average cooling level of phase changers, how do those work?

Posted: 2006-01-11 02:22pm
by Admiral Valdemar
You basically have an A/C system working on your whole desktop casing. You don't really need anything more, no Peltier (which'll eat up juice) or water or mineral oil (which will be a bitch anyway to keep sealed in with this). So all you need is the cooling unit that you've forked out a grand for.

But running at below zero degrees Celsius is going to make a China syndrome CPU impossible.

Posted: 2006-01-11 05:43pm
by phongn
Ace Pace wrote:And once again, AMD proves that Netburst should be retired as fast as possible.
Conroe is supposed to be out this year and I have high hopes for it.

Posted: 2006-01-12 12:13am
by Ace Pace
phongn wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:And once again, AMD proves that Netburst should be retired as fast as possible.
Conroe is supposed to be out this year and I have high hopes for it.
Esspecially since it taped out around October, so we can expect it to come at a slightly more mature revision then expected.