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Vista Builds

Posted: 2006-02-16 09:17am
by Ace Pace
Google has failed me, does anyone know where to get the latest Vista builds?

Posted: 2006-02-16 10:21am
by General Zod
Tried checking the Microsoft homepage?

Posted: 2006-02-16 10:26am
by Ace Pace
General Zod wrote:Tried checking the Microsoft homepage?
Thats stuff relating to Vista, for developers.

Posted: 2006-02-16 10:33am
by phongn
The latest Vista builds are available on MSDN.

Posted: 2006-02-16 10:33am
by General Zod
Ace Pace wrote:
General Zod wrote:Tried checking the Microsoft homepage?
Thats stuff relating to Vista, for developers.
Only place I can find within the MS homepage about where to get the Vista beta. Even links in their forum direct me to that page.

Posted: 2006-02-16 10:35am
by Ace Pace
Destructionator XIII wrote:I'm pretty sure you need a MSDN subscription to get them right now.
And that requires $s?

Posted: 2006-02-16 10:37am
by phongn
Ace Pace wrote:
Destructionator XIII wrote:I'm pretty sure you need a MSDN subscription to get them right now.
And that requires $s?
Yes. Lots of $$.

Posted: 2006-02-16 11:40am
by Xon
phongn wrote:Yes. Lots of $$.
Actually not much.

For 1-2 years for $300-$400 if you have a business you get access to basicly every bit of supported Microsoft software except games. The product licences are valid even after the MSDN subscription runs out, and you only get a limited number of keys(but just phone up and get them to reactivate the same key multipule times, toll-free number and 5-10 minutes of your time For Teh Win).

I believe it is called an Action Pack or something like that.

Or go bug someone with an MSDNAA subscription.

Posted: 2006-02-16 12:07pm
by phongn
ggs wrote:For 1-2 years for $300-$400 if you have a business you get access to basicly every bit of supported Microsoft software except games. The product licences are valid even after the MSDN subscription runs out, and you only get a limited number of keys(but just phone up and get them to reactivate the same key multipule times, toll-free number and 5-10 minutes of your time For Teh Win).
Forgot about the Action Pack -- I was thinking more of the MSDN Universal subscription.

Posted: 2006-02-17 12:32am
by Sarevok
phongn wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:
Destructionator XIII wrote:I'm pretty sure you need a MSDN subscription to get them right now.
And that requires $s?
Yes. Lots of $$.
Is not there a free version of MSDN available online at http://msdn.microsoft.com/ ? The downloads for the CD versions of MSDN are on the MSDN site anyway. So would readers of the online version be able to download material llike purchased version of MSDN ?

Posted: 2006-02-17 09:17am
by phongn
Sarevok wrote:Is not there a free version of MSDN available online at http://msdn.microsoft.com/ ? The downloads for the CD versions of MSDN are on the MSDN site anyway. So would readers of the online version be able to download material llike purchased version of MSDN ?
The free MSDN is only the documentation; the software dwonloads generally cost money.

Posted: 2006-02-18 02:09am
by Sarevok
I see. I think the files should stayed on the CDs. The decision to move all of them to the web has caused problems for people without fast internet like me. Before I could just browse the CD and go through various sample code, demoes etc at my leisure. Now I got to wait at least a few mins for viewing anything.

Posted: 2006-02-18 04:06am
by Netko
Erm, actualy the MSDN library is instalable from the Visual Studio CDs/DVDs, most versions anyway. At least that has been my expirience with both VS.net and VS 2005. The internet connection part is nice to have for the latest info, however in everyday use the local library is more then enough.

Maybe the diffrence is that it now no longer resides on the CDs but has to be installed?