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Strange DVD drive problem
Posted: 2006-03-13 08:47am
by Bounty
I've got a Toshiba SD-R2312 DVD drive/CD-R that's been acting odd lately. It reads and burns CD's just fine, but some DVD's - even ones that used to work flawlessly - aren't being read properly. After inserting the disc the drive keeps making a "clicking" sound without spinning up (the same click happens with discs that do work, but there it only clicks once), the activity light on the tray goes nuts, and Windows claims there's no disc in the drive. It's only affecting some DVD's, and it's not a problem with the discs since all of them work on my other DVD player.
Is the drive dying or might this be something fixeable ?
Posted: 2006-03-13 08:58am
by Gandalf
About the DVDs you're trying to run:
Are they films? And if so, how recent are they?
I noticed my copy of Serenity doesn't work on my PC. I assume it's some weird form of copy protection.
Posted: 2006-03-13 09:04am
by Bounty
About the DVDs you're trying to run:
Are they films? And if so, how recent are they?
The discs I tried so far :
Believe Nothing, TV-series, 2002 -> doesn't work
Spaceballs, movie, 2001 (?) -> doesn't work (but used to)
BTTF, movie, 2003 (?) -> works
Firefly, TV-series, 2002 -> doesn't work
Posted: 2006-03-13 10:06am
by Xon
Try this(the Workaround, ignore the patches), to reset the DMA mode from PIO to the highest level it can.
If that fixes the problem, Starforce has fucked over your computer.
Posted: 2006-03-13 11:00am
by Bounty
ggs wrote:Try this(the Workaround, ignore the patches), to reset the DMA mode from PIO to the highest level it can.
If that fixes the problem, Starforce has fucked over your computer.
Are you sure about the link, because that looks like a HDD fix. And I am
reasonably sure it's not a Starforce problem, because I can't recall the last time I installed a retail game on this PC from the CD.
EDIT : and I don't see the Starforce drivers in the device manager either.
Posted: 2006-03-13 01:27pm
by Datana
Bounty wrote:
Are you sure about the link, because that looks like a HDD fix. And I am
reasonably sure it's not a Starforce problem, because I can't recall the last time I installed a retail game on this PC from the CD.
EDIT : and I don't see the Starforce drivers in the device manager either.
I'll confirm this separately. While it looks like a HDD fix, it also works for CD and DVD-ROM drives. In addition, even if you've already removed the Starforce drivers, the PIO mode thing will remain until fixed.
You might try cleaning the drive out using a CD/DVD lens cleaning kit. Another thing that might be wrong is something related to the layer change. I don't know what "BTTF" is, but the ones that don't work are all dual-layered DVDs. I've had several drives fail in that way, but they still work fine in reading single-layered discs and CDs. In that case, I wouldn't know the solution, as I haven't found one short of replacing the drive yet.
Posted: 2006-03-13 03:25pm
by Vendetta
The only solution, if it is failing to read dual layer discs exclusively, would be to dismantle the drive and realign the laser assembly.
replacing the drive and eating the cost of that is probably less hassle. (plus DVD drives pretty much come free in cereal packets these days).
Posted: 2006-03-13 04:40pm
by Bounty
While it looks like a HDD fix, it also works for CD and DVD-ROM drives.
I'll give it a try.
I don't know what "BTTF" is
Back to the Future, duh
Posted: 2006-03-14 01:10am
by Xon
Bounty wrote:Are you sure about the link, because that looks like a HDD fix.
It fixes the timeout on any ATA/SCSI device, CD/DVD drives are included in this
EDIT : and I don't see the Starforce drivers in the device manager either.
You need to enabled "Show hidden devices" in device manage because they hid themselves.
It is either something like Starforce fucking the drive over, or the drive itself is physically defective.
Posted: 2006-03-14 06:12am
by Bounty
You need to enabled "Show hidden devices" in device manage because they hid themselves.
Yes, I was aware of this, and no, I'm not fucked over by Starforce.
It fixes the timeout on any ATA/SCSI device, CD/DVD drives are included in this
Ah. I just checked and the transfer mode on the secondary IDE channel (which I presume is the DVD drive) is set to "Multi-Word DMA2", not PIO, so it's probably a hardware problem them. Damn.
Thanks for the help, anyway.
Posted: 2006-03-14 10:36am
by Netko
Don't presume. Check the drive properties in device manager, in the location field there should be info like "Location 0 (Secondary ATA Channel)" or similar. There is no techical reason why the optical drive should be on the second channel except custom (it's another thing if it's on the same channel as the disk).