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New Satoru Iwata interview; Nintendo Revolution

Posted: 2006-03-29 08:20pm
by Praxis
http://www.nintendoplayers.com/article. ... icleID=180

Nintendo doesn't like in-game advertising, will distribute new titles over the virtual console, will allow USB drives for storage, and won't raise the price of new games.

Awesome.

I find the part about distributing new titles interesting; since a Revolution dev kit costs $2000 (less than a PSP dev kit and in the same price range as a DS dev kit), that makes it extremely cheap for small developers to get in to making games and distributing them online.

Posted: 2006-03-29 08:45pm
by Erik von Nein
If that's so mayhaps we'll see an increase in the number of indie titles on consoles that might actually be worth a damn?

I'd love it if small companies were given a better chance at competing in the market. I like this move.

Posted: 2006-03-29 09:11pm
by Instant Sunrise
Every interview I read, Nintendo's virtual console feature sounds more and more like their answer to Xbox Live Arcade. Which is a good thing, IMHO. I just hope that the big N gets thier equivalent of Geometry Wars to really sell the VC concept.

Posted: 2006-03-29 09:26pm
by TheBlackCat
The $50 price thing was expected considering how Nintendo has been talking about games needing to be inexpensive. The real good new from my perspective is the USB compatibility thing, this means that it will be no trouble getting all the storage space you could ever want. Hopefully people will be able to hack it to play music and video as well. My only concern is how Nintendo will prevent piracy of the virtual console titles.

Posted: 2006-03-30 03:26am
by Praxis
I'm expecting some sort of DRM.

Anyway, I hope I can get it to run Linux :lol:

Posted: 2006-03-30 03:45am
by Uraniun235
Praxis wrote:I'm expecting some sort of DRM.

Anyway, I hope I can get it to run Linux :lol:
in the meantime you could try getting your toaster to run linux

Posted: 2006-03-30 03:46am
by Praxis
Uraniun235 wrote:
Praxis wrote:I'm expecting some sort of DRM.

Anyway, I hope I can get it to run Linux :lol:
in the meantime you could try getting your toaster to run linux
I already have my DS running Linux :P

Posted: 2006-03-30 06:04pm
by atg
Uraniun235 wrote:in the meantime you could try getting your toaster to run linux
mmmmm Penguin toast.........

Praxis wrote:I already have my DS running Linux
I bought a DS the other day. How hard is it to get linux running on there.

Posted: 2006-03-30 09:26pm
by Praxis
atg wrote: I bought a DS the other day. How hard is it to get linux running on there.
Just get the right equipment and its a breeze.

The simplest solution (however, it can not run commercial roms or homebrew over a certain size, but it runs Linux perfectly) is a $25 GBA Movie Player (v2), a compact flash cart of any size, and a $20 PassMe2 or any of the variants.

The GBA Movie Player takes a compact flash cart and goes in the GBA slot. The default firmware only runs in GBA mode and plays movies, but you can put a hacked firmware on it that lets it boot in DS mode, then put Linux on it (putting Linux on is as simple as putting a file and a folder on the cart).

You put the PassMe in to trick it into booting into DS mode from the GBA slot, then put the GBA Movie Player in the bottom slot and turn it on. Bam. Linux.


You may also choose to overwrite the DS's firmware so you can boot in DS mode from the GBA slot with a button combination, but I'm too paranoid to do this. After doing this you can sell the PassMe.


The more expensive, but simpler, solution is to buy for $90 the package with the PassKey 2 (PassMe 2 variant) and GBA Movie Player v3 (also known as the M3 Adapter), which is designed to run DS homebrew and boot in GBA mode for video playback and stuff. Then plug in a CompactFlash cart with the DSLinux file on it, boot, and run. Simple as that.

I went with the M3 route- the M3 is basicly a compact flash adapter like the GBA Movie Player + 32 MB of RAM onboard (since CF cards don't have XIP), so it can run programs of very large size, including commercial roms.

NOTE: NOT illegal roms; a $10 cable lets me back up my GBA games myself. I back up my GBA roms and load them on the M3; legal backups, as GBA cartridges have no encryption. The M3 also lets me use save states. :D

So far, I've got a movie player, MP3 player, address book, calender, a few homebrew games, a few GBA roms I ripped, and the Mario Kart hack (so I can use the unplayable online tracks while playing online when I put in the Mario Kart game) on my M3. Plus Zelda and Kingdom Hearts II trailers and Dexter's Lab episodes.

Posted: 2006-03-30 11:02pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
The whole Linux on DS thing has just one little bit that confuses me:

Why?

Posted: 2006-03-30 11:21pm
by Elheru Aran
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The whole Linux on DS thing has just one little bit that confuses me:

Why?
Same reasoning as a Palm or Blackberry, I expect... except the games aren't of the Minesweeper or Solitaire variety. :P

Posted: 2006-03-30 11:27pm
by Drooling Iguana
Uraniun235 wrote:
Praxis wrote:I'm expecting some sort of DRM.

Anyway, I hope I can get it to run Linux :lol:
in the meantime you could try getting your toaster to run linux
Is NetBSD close enough?

Posted: 2006-03-30 11:27pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Man, methinks some of you guys would try and install Linux in your dicks if other people didn't restrain you first. :P

Posted: 2006-03-31 01:05am
by Praxis
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The whole Linux on DS thing has just one little bit that confuses me:

Why?
At this point: because we can!

It's only command line.

However, quite a few WiFi hacking tools are being ported, as is a GUI, and once the GUI is completed, that means it turns the DS into a full-fledged PDA.

Posted: 2006-03-31 10:25pm
by Vendetta
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The whole Linux on DS thing has just one little bit that confuses me:

Why?
Because.

Seriously, these people don't need reasons, they do things because no-one else has.