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"Your Own Personal Internet"
Posted: 2006-07-02 01:20am
by Uraniun235
Another HOT article from the
B-B-BLOGOSPHERE.
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Thursday, 29 June 2006
Your Own Personal Internet
by Ryan Singel and Kevin Poulsen
The Senate Commerce Committee deadlocked 11 to 11 on an amendment inserting some very basic net neutrality provisions into a moving telecommunications bill. The provisions didn't prohibit an ISP from handling VOIP faster than emails, but would have made it illegal to handle its own VOIP packets faster than a competitor's.
Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) explained why he voted against the amendment and gave an amazing primer on how the internet works.
There's one company now you can sign up and you can get a movie delivered to your house daily by delivery service. Okay. And currently it comes to your house, it gets put in the mail box when you get home and you change your order but you pay for that, right.
But this service isn't going to go through the interent and what you do is you just go to a place on the internet and you order your movie and guess what you can order ten of them delivered to you and the delivery charge is free.
Ten of them streaming across that internet and what happens to your own personal internet?
I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why?
Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the internet commercially.
So you want to talk about the consumer? Let's talk about you and me. We use this internet to communicate and we aren't using it for commercial purposes.
We aren't earning anything by going on that internet. Now I'm not saying you have to or you want to discrimnate against those people [...]
The regulatory approach is wrong. Your approach is regulatory in the sense that it says "No one can charge anyone for massively invading this world of the internet". No, I'm not finished. I want people to understand my position, I'm not going to take a lot of time. [?]
They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck.
It's a series of tubes.
And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and its going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.
Now we have a separate Department of Defense internet now, did you know that?
Do you know why?
Because they have to have theirs delivered immediately. They can't afford getting delayed by other people.
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Now I think these people are arguing whether they should be able to dump all that stuff on the internet ought to consider if they should develop a system themselves.
Maybe there is a place for a commercial net but it's not using what consumers use every day.
It's not using the messaging service that is essential to small businesses, to our operation of families.
The whole concept is that we should not go into this until someone shows that there is something that has been done that really is a viloation of net neutraility that hits you and me.
The full audio can be found
here.
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Posted: 2006-07-02 01:31am
by Praxis
I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why?
Posted: 2006-07-02 01:40am
by Ar-Adunakhor
Reading that makes my brain hurt. People who don't understand how something functions or what it provides have no buisiness dictating how it should be regulated.
Re: "Your Own Personal Internet"
Posted: 2006-07-02 02:47am
by FedRebel
Ten of them streaming across that internet and what happens to your own personal internet?
What is this "personal internet" of which you speak? Do you mean websites hosted on your own servers?
I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why?
I sure hope that you mean an e-mail
We aren't earning anything by going on that internet. Now I'm not saying you have to or you want to discrimnate against those people [...]
Actually you probably do make money fronm the internet, where do you thing those "contributions" from the telecommunications industry come from?
They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck.
Despite what Al Gore says the internet is a military invention, so I'm sure it can take alot of punishment
Now we have a separate Department of Defense internet now, did you know that?
I thought that the civilian internet and the military netork were always seperate. If they ever where interconnected that was a needless security risk.
Do you know why?
Because they have to have theirs delivered immediately. They can't afford getting delayed by other people.
Wrong, they're seperate to prevent a hacker living in his parents basement from Telling NORAD to deploy our nuclear arsenal.
Now I think these people are arguing whether they should be able to dump all that stuff on the internet ought to consider if they should develop a system themselves.
Well you'd be happy to know then that media pirates dominate usenet nowadays.
Posted: 2006-07-02 06:44am
by Keevan_Colton
I guess the idea of the net as a web of tubes, where if one craps out or is overloaded there are a massive number of alternate routes passed dipshit by...or maybe his internet isnt.
I'll bet the fuckwit just forgot to open his email client on friday when he was downloading shit because he's clearly a fucking retard.
Posted: 2006-07-02 11:57am
by Arthur_Tuxedo
Al Gore was the PR guy responsible for selling the idea of the ARPANet, which was the predecesssor of today's Internet.
Posted: 2006-07-03 12:56am
by Winston Blake
They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck.
It's a series of tubes.
Right about here i was instantly reminded of the Bill Cosby pseudoquote all over ytmnd, where he says "You see, jazz is like jello pudding. No. Maybe it's more like kodak film". I would love to see the audio from this story getting twisted around in the bowels of ytmnd.
Posted: 2006-07-03 02:27am
by CaptainChewbacca
My 94 year-old, blind grandmother can better articulate how the internet works. Are people sure he wasn't having a stroke in mid-speech?
Posted: 2006-07-03 04:16am
by Praxis
CaptainChewbacca wrote:My 94 year-old, blind grandmother can better articulate how the internet works. Are people sure he wasn't having a stroke in mid-speech?
My mother can...not the grandmother though. She thought she was doing well when she figured out that the monitor
wasn't the computer.
Posted: 2006-07-03 07:18am
by Winston Blake
Notes on the audio file: The quoted section is only the final half. If it's possible, the first half was even less comprehensible. So much stuttering. The way this guy talks is just painful, if you listen to the recording closely you can hear the souls of the people listening moaning in agony.
Posted: 2006-07-03 11:32pm
by Davis 51
Has anyone seen any commercials or ad's from this group called "Hand's off the internet?" Basically, they're an anti-network neutrality group. Their ad's are so full of shit, it would take someone with as much experience as Ted Stevens to fall for it.
For some reason that's not funny.
Posted: 2006-07-03 11:36pm
by SWPIGWANG
I think it doesn't make sense that this is in G&C as oppose to N&P....this is more politics than technology anyways....
Posted: 2006-07-04 11:25am
by dr. what
Winston Blake wrote:Notes on the audio file: The quoted section is only the final half. If it's possible, the first half was even less comprehensible. So much stuttering. The way this guy talks is just painful, if you listen to the recording closely you can hear the souls of the people listening moaning in agony.
Don't talk about the President pro tempore of the Senate like that! He's a very brilliant man. He was the one who came up with the Bridge to Nowhere after all....
