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http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx

Great for running all those old DOS games.

Cool I'm using it right now, posting with DSL running under XP. This'll be fun

Faram wrote:http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx

Great for running all those old DOS games.

Great for running those Win98 games which dont work anywhere else too.

Vaguely on-topic, is there a good Linux distributions I can install on a VPC virtual disk ? I've got about 128 MB RAM to spare. I'd just like to get poke around Linux a bit.

Eh, Vmware was free awhile ago. Although the performance of the server version might suck compared VPC, so I guess it'd be worth a try on a windows computer.

Bounty wrote:Vaguely on-topic, is there a good Linux distributions I can install on a VPC virtual disk ? I've got about 128 MB RAM to spare. I'd just like to get poke around Linux a bit.

128MB is way too low- I run an instance of Linux on Xen (faster than VMware or VPC)- slow as molasses on a PII-400/256MB...


Then again, I also use Azureus at the same time.


Should you get more ram, you could fiddle w/ prebuilt images here for VMware player:
http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/

Pu-239 wrote:Eh, Vmware was free awhile ago. Although the performance of the server version might suck compared VPC, so I guess it'd be worth a try on a windows computer.

The VMWare player was free. You couldn't make VM's yourself, I believe.

128MB is way too low- I run an instance of Linux on Xen (faster than VMware or VPC)- slow as molasses on a PII-400/256MB...

Nono, 128 for the virtual machine. I thought the Linux community generally catered to the users of salvaged junkyard PC's ? Don't they have a distro that takes up less then a gig of HDD space and will run on a VM with 128 MB RAM ?

Bounty wrote:
Nono, 128 for the virtual machine. I thought the Linux community generally catered to the users of salvaged junkyard PC's ? Don't they have a distro that takes up less then a gig of HDD space and will run on a VM with 128 MB RAM ?

I believe the name of the distro you're looking for is called Slackware, but don't expect much out of it beyond the absolute basic necessities.

Bounty wrote:

Pu-239 wrote:Eh, Vmware was free awhile ago. Although the performance of the server version might suck compared VPC, so I guess it'd be worth a try on a windows computer.

The VMWare player was free. You couldn't make VM's yourself, I believe.

VMWare Server is free too. The made that move a bit after bringing out Player. Also, there are some freeware tools out there that can created virtual machines for Player.

This is a couple months after MS released Virtual Server for free, which was based off Virtual PC.

Bounty wrote:

Pu-239 wrote:Eh, Vmware was free awhile ago. Although the performance of the server version might suck compared VPC, so I guess it'd be worth a try on a windows computer.

The VMWare player was free. You couldn't make VM's yourself, I believe.

128MB is way too low- I run an instance of Linux on Xen (faster than VMware or VPC)- slow as molasses on a PII-400/256MB...

Nono, 128 for the virtual machine. I thought the Linux community generally catered to the users of salvaged junkyard PC's ? Don't they have a distro that takes up less then a gig of HDD space and will run on a VM with 128 MB RAM ?

Oh, that makes more sense- yeah, just grab the Ubuntu Virtual Applicance and run that. You'll probably want XBuntu: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/497, since it's lighter than the standard Ubuntu. My server's slowness seems to be CPU bound, but I figured any computer w/ only 128MB of RAM has to be really slow.

Jawawithagun wrote:

Bounty wrote:

Pu-239 wrote:Eh, Vmware was free awhile ago. Although the performance of the server version might suck compared VPC, so I guess it'd be worth a try on a windows computer.

The VMWare player was free. You couldn't make VM's yourself, I believe.

VMWare Server is free too. The made that move a bit after bringing out Player. Also, there are some freeware tools out there that can created virtual machines for Player.

Qemu will create images. Or yeah, just use VMware server- it's kinda slow for desktop usage though, at least on a Linux host.

Jawawithagun wrote:VMWare Server is free too. The made that move a bit after bringing out Player. Also, there are some freeware tools out there that can created virtual machines for Player.

So what's the diffrence between VMware server and VMware Workstation? One you have to pay for, but as far as I can tell they both do the same things.

Server can only take one snapshot per virtual machine, has some features to start the VMs when the OS starts, doesn't have (partial) 3D acceleration for virtual machines, GUI performance lags a bit.

Pu-239 wrote:Server can only take one snapshot per virtual machine, has some features to start the VMs when the OS starts, doesn't have (partial) 3D acceleration for virtual machines, GUI performance lags a bit.

We use Server at work to test out various configurations - we have an XP Pro box as the host and fire up a bunch of images at the same time and remote-login. It's pretty nifty. VMWare Workstation is faster but limited in what we need to do.