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Steel Panthers WinWW2 AAR
Posted: 2006-07-19 08:33am
by MKSheppard
Doing a full long campaign from 1941 to 1945 as the USSR.
Formed up in June 1941 using a Medium Tank Battalion of 32 x T-26 M1939s.
First battle was a DRAW, lost 12 tanks and 54 men, but destroyed 2 German Tanks, 3 German Mortars/Guns, and 261 men.
The T-26s and BT-7s get a lot of bad press, but in 1941, they really aren't that bad of a tank; everyone fixtates on the mighty T-34, and forgets that the majority of the tank parks for everyone was relatively light vehicles; and in 1941, the Infantry really did not have very good anti-tank weapons, making a charge by a Battalion of T-26s a deadly thing to German Infantry.
Battle 2: DRAW
1 x T-26 Destroyed, 4 AT Guns destroyed, 43 men lost.
vs
10 x Pz IIIs destroyed, 91 German Troops lost.
I bought a AT-Gun Battery composed of 47mm L3x guns, along with several companies or was it platoons of conscript infantry to support my core tank battalion, and laid them out like so
with my Tank Battalion sitting in reserve, and the conscripts and ATGs screening them.
Final Battle Results:
Posted: 2006-07-19 08:38am
by Vympel
Where to download SPWW2?
More importantly, can we do an SPMBT + SPWW2 crossover, where it's T-90s versus Pz IIIs?
Posted: 2006-07-19 08:49am
by MKSheppard
Vympel wrote:Where to download SPWW2?
Here
More importantly, can we do an SPMBT + SPWW2 crossover, where it's T-90s versus Pz IIIs?
If you want to, the games use the same engine, so you could use MOBHACK.
Oh, Syria from 1951 to 1967 has PzIVGs and Hs, and France from 1946 to 1949 has Jagdpanthers in WinMBT.
Just set them as "Captured" equipment, heheh.
Posted: 2006-07-19 02:16pm
by irishmick79
Vympel wrote:More importantly, can we do an SPMBT + SPWW2 crossover, where it's T-90s versus Pz IIIs?
Pardon me for asking, but what would you want to do that scenario for? Just to see how many PzIII's the T-90's can shred through before the main gun overheats?
Posted: 2006-07-19 04:28pm
by Adrian Laguna
Oh, I see they finally upgraded from the DOS version. I couldn't get that one to work so I started playing
World at War from Matrix Games instead. I do have Main Battle Tank, mostly because it's been a while since the Windows version came-out.
Maybe I'm spoiled, but I think the AAR needs more detail. Though it's really nice you've provided pictures.
Anyone know how SP:WinWW2 and SP:WaW compare? Should I stick with what I have or is WW2 better? I was kind of dissapointed to find that MBT has only 160 scenarios to WaW's 340.
Posted: 2006-07-19 05:36pm
by Acidburns
Ah Steel Panthers, such a classic game. I've never had the attention/resolve to stick with it for a full campaign. I've still got the budget release of SP 1 disc. While I liked the breadth of the game, I prefer the Close Combat series. I handle real time games better, I find I suffer from a lack of patience in turn-based games. Mostly because I find it hard to comprehend the passage of time I think, I tend to always be moving full distance when I should be sitting back. Have not played it for a long time, maybe I'll give it a second chance.
I wish you good hunting Shep.
Posted: 2006-07-20 02:47pm
by MKSheppard
The most vicious battle I've ever been in so far; the defense of Hill xxx
Link to 500~ kb GIF showing the entire front
My losses:
190 men
5 AT Guns
14 Tanks
German losses
339 men
32 Tanks
Posted: 2006-07-20 06:20pm
by MKSheppard
Adrian Laguna wrote:Maybe I'm spoiled, but I think the AAR needs more detail. Though it's really nice you've provided pictures.
Well, a really detailed AAR makes it impossible to actually PLAY the game, since you're constantly taking pictures and notes and then writing it all up afterwards.
Anyone know how SP:WinWW2 and SP:WaW compare? Should I stick with what I have or is WW2 better? I was kind of dissapointed to find that MBT has only 160 scenarios to WaW's 340.
Let me put it this way:
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Maximum Units per Country:
SP:WAW: 255 units and formations per OBAT file
WinSPMBT/WinSPWW2: 999 units, and 999 formations per OBAT file
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Maximum Map Sizes
SP:WAW: 100 x 240 hex maps; 24,000 hexes
WinSPMBT/WinSPWW2: 160 x 200 hex maps; 32,000 hexes
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Maximum Hill Heights:
SP:WAW: 3 terrain height levels.
WinSPMBT/WinSPWW2: 15 terrain height levels.
Posted: 2006-07-20 06:34pm
by LaserRifleofDoom
I feraking love Steel Panthers. It was my first real strategy game. And it still kicks major ass. I just need to figure out how to mod it and turn it into a Sci-Fi game. Then I would be my own personal god.
But as it is, I am exceptionally thankful that you have provided that link to a download of a non-DOS version.
Posted: 2006-07-20 08:59pm
by Vympel
irishmick79 wrote:
Pardon me for asking, but what would you want to do that scenario for? Just to see how many PzIII's the T-90's can shred through before the main gun overheats?
It's all in the interest of science.
Posted: 2006-07-20 11:11pm
by Adrian Laguna
MKSheppard wrote:
Let me put it this way:
Note that I already have MBT
Maximum Units per Country:
SP:WAW: 255 units and formations per OBAT file
WinSPMBT/WinSPWW2: 999 units, and 999 formations per OBAT file
Considering that the amount of Soviet units in WaW was confusing enough this isn't exactly an attention grabber.
Maximum Map Sizes
SP:WAW: 100 x 240 hex maps; 24,000 hexes
WinSPMBT/WinSPWW2: 160 x 200 hex maps; 32,000 hexes
And considering that I avoid the largest maps like the plague this isn't very convincing either.
Maximum Hill Heights:
SP:WAW: 3 terrain height levels.
WinSPMBT/WinSPWW2: 15 terrain height levels.
This, however, intrigues me.
I'm going to go download it anyway, but what I'd really like is a better method of handling large amounts of tanks, trucks, artillery, and infantry platoons. I don't play the largest scenarios because I tie myself in a horrid knot trying to co-ordinate so many units at once. It's not like in the Total War games were the soldiers, cavalry, and artillery are conviniently arranged into large blocks you can command as a single entity.