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In response to Core 2's imminent release, AMD will be drastically cutting prices. This applies to AM2 and S939.
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phongn wrote:In response to Core 2's imminent release, AMD will be drastically cutting prices. This applies to AM2 and S939.
$300!!!! cuts on most of the bloody high end.

AMD!
Get back to the design table and get me a Cornoe killer!
I want another Pentium III vs Althon style race here boys. I want new processors prices to drop like a rock three months after they are released because you already got a new FX proccesor coming.

Get to it!

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Holy crap, the 4600+ is dropping to $224! Though the 4800+ remains $600, odd.

Well I gota say, this definatly keeps AMD in the race as far as price/performance goes. If they go much lower I might have to upgrade from my x2 3800+
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4800+ has been discontinued; if I remember right, AMD decided that the cost of the extra cache that the 4800 and 4400 represented weren't worth the performance gains.
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The Core 2's will still outperform these chips at a given price point. It's nice to see such large price cuts, but going AMD will still only make sense if there are big Core 2 shortages and a person can't wait a couple months for the shortages to clear. Still, a gamer who doesn't do much encoding and such will be hard pressed to see any difference whatsoever between an A64 4600+ and the fastest Core 2 on the market. Games are GPU bound these days, and faster CPU's beyond a certain point make no performance difference.
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Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:The Core 2's will still outperform these chips at a given price point.
Er... that depends a bit on who's buying them. For example, if I wanted to go Intel, that instantly raises the price by around $200 USD depending on what quality motherboard and RAM I get. Are the Core 2's still always better in terms of price/performance after slapping on an additional $200?
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I don't know about $200. I agree that quality Intel motherboards are more expensive to the tune of maybe $40, but either chip should be fine with DDR2-667. If you're talking about S939 A64's, then the memory is actually more expensive. It is a consideration, but also consider that you'd have to get the more expensive 65 watt versions of the AMD chips to get similar power requirements and temps to the Core 2's. All in all, I think Core 2's still have the edge here.
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Are there AMD based boards that support DDR2?
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Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I don't know about $200. I agree that quality Intel motherboards are more expensive to the tune of maybe $40, but either chip should be fine with DDR2-667. If you're talking about S939 A64's, then the memory is actually more expensive. It is a consideration, but also consider that you'd have to get the more expensive 65 watt versions of the AMD chips to get similar power requirements and temps to the Core 2's. All in all, I think Core 2's still have the edge here.
No, what I'm saying is that I already have a Socket 939 AMD chip, motherboard, and DDR RAM. In order for me to go to Intel, I'd have to buy all-new motherboard and RAM in addition to the chip, whereas I can pop any socket 939 into my current motherboard and have it work just fine.

Sorry I wasn't more clear about what I meant with my first post.
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Are there AMD based boards that support DDR2?
The new AM2 socket boards support it. No 939 socket boards do.
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Uraniun235 wrote:
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I don't know about $200. I agree that quality Intel motherboards are more expensive to the tune of maybe $40, but either chip should be fine with DDR2-667. If you're talking about S939 A64's, then the memory is actually more expensive. It is a consideration, but also consider that you'd have to get the more expensive 65 watt versions of the AMD chips to get similar power requirements and temps to the Core 2's. All in all, I think Core 2's still have the edge here.
No, what I'm saying is that I already have a Socket 939 AMD chip, motherboard, and DDR RAM. In order for me to go to Intel, I'd have to buy all-new motherboard and RAM in addition to the chip, whereas I can pop any socket 939 into my current motherboard and have it work just fine.

Sorry I wasn't more clear about what I meant with my first post.
Oh, I see. One would have to question the need to upgrade the processor in that case, though. Games are so GPU bound these days that you can basically just upgrade the video card and call it a day unless your CPU is really slow.
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I'm liking the $324 5000+, 65w EE chip.
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Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Oh, I see. One would have to question the need to upgrade the processor in that case, though. Games are so GPU bound these days that you can basically just upgrade the video card and call it a day unless your CPU is really slow.
You are missing two reasons for cpu upgrades:
1 - Bragging rights
2 - Small penis compensation

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God this is tempting me to upgrade my old Athlon 1200mhz so It'll tidy me over a while yet while I wait for upgrading to a macbook pro...
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Goddamit and I left before they went into affects. oh well, even if it was expensive, the 3800+ is shiny in my hands.
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So what's a good CPU for an S939 Amberine M (stock HP mobo)?
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I told you Einy, without finding a BIOS version to flash your mobo, I'd stay away from upgrading unless you are sure it can support Dual Core, I'd advise Emailing HP tech support and asking them regarding possability of upgrading to dual core.
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