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Well, technically beginning in ten minutes as of posting.

Follow the live coverage here:
http://www.macrumorslive.com/web/
EDIT: High bandwidth version (it has photos):
http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/07/live ... s-keynote/

Last year's "Redmond, start your photocopiers" was just the beginning. Apple's really going after Microsoft this year.



In related news, VMWare for Mac OS X was announced when WWDC opened this morning.


I'm hoping for Merom- or Conroe-based iMacs. Core 2 Duo, you know. *drools*

Woodcrest based desktop system? I owe someone money.

Ace Pace wrote:2.6 Ghz dual with 256 MB ram..wtf is wrong with Apple?

That 256 refers to the nvidia PCIe video card.
The system ships with 1 GB standard.

Still, WTF are they thinking of shipping a $2499 system with only a gig of RAM and a cheesy 250 GB hard drive?

Added:
Heh, looks like I caught you in mid-edit.

Mid delete. Oh well, nice news, I suppose Conroe won't even show up.

Whats the point of having a native Intel version of Tiger if they Leopard around the corner?

Glocksman wrote:

Ace Pace wrote:2.6 Ghz dual with 256 MB ram..wtf is wrong with Apple?

That 256 refers to the nvidia PCIe video card.
The system ships with 1 GB standard.

Still, WTF are they thinking of shipping a $2499 system with only a gig of RAM and a cheesy 250 GB hard drive?

Added:
Heh, looks like I caught you in mid-edit.

Apple have always been total jerks when it comes to memory. Upgrading from 512 MB to 1 GB on their site costs considerably more than buying a 1 GB stick anywhere else. And they always skimp. Last year all the systems shipped with 256 MB except the high end (>$2000) which shipped with 512 MB.

Ace Pace wrote:Whats the point of having a native Intel version of Tiger if they Leopard around the corner?

Tiger on Intel has been out since January...what do you think the Intel Macs run?

What I found interesting was this:

"I know what you're thinking. Apple makes the best computers but they're expensive. We're going to bust that myth. Similar configuration about a thousand dollars less than Dell."

Given the bullshit Steve Jobs has put out before, I'll believe they can beat Dell when I actually see both comparable systems for sale.
However if they actually do so and expand on that by competing with Dell on price across the range, there just may be a Mac in my future.

Thats just nasty, comparing Vista to Tiger, Microsofts new stuff to Apples old stuff.

I wonder whats new in leopard.

"This is iCal, our calendaring program, and this is Windows Calendar . They even tried to copy our color scheme but they didn't get it quite right. This is their logo. You may think I took a Windows logo and added a nice Aqua bubble on top, but no, that's the logo, but underneath it's still Windows. It still has the registry at its core. It still has DLL hell and it still has this well-loved feature called activation. If you can't innovate, you have to imiate, but it's never quite as good. So, to talk about our future, I'm going to turn back to Steven."



ROFL, regardless of your views on the subject you've got to admire Stevie's guts, mouthing off to Microsoft that way

Thats just nasty and an insult to every registry out there.

"So here we are on the Leopard desktop. Here are the four files I'm working on. Click on Time Machine down on the dock and..."Screen changes to a 3D group of of screens that lets you select from multiple versions of the window. "Notice the stars are moving. Let me go back to yesterday. I can go back two days. I'm not sure where the file is. I can fly back therough time and... oh, there it is. So as you can see, this file was deleted some time after June 24th. I can double-click to get a preview of it. Now I just click Restore... done."
"

I want it. Now.

The Dashboard stuff is my dreams.

Want.Mac.

Ace Pace wrote:The Dashboard stuff is my dreams.

Want.Mac.

I wish I could send this post back in time a year.
I'm not too excited about the ToDo stuff, I never listen to my reminders anyway. The virtualization sounds interesting, but sounds like what I already have in Linux. I'll have to see what's up with that.

Full 64-bit, top to bottom? w00t. Time Machine? Astounding. Spotlight upgrades? Nice. New iChat with compositioning? w00t.


Now we need the entire Apple lineup to switch from Yonah to Merom.

No real need as there isn't a huge preformance boost between the two.

To sum up:

new universal access
parental controls dramatically enhanced
Boot camp 1.0
next gen of front row
photobooth
ichat
mail
revolutionary tech of tiger to the next level - spotlight, dashboard, webclip
developer tools with dashcode
xcode 3.0 released today
giant leap in xcode
Spaces - whole new way
and of course, Time Machine

It's over, and no systems were announced using Conroe or Merom. This makes me sad :'(


EDIT:

the über-configurable Mac Pro

Apple's using the term uber? What's next? A poster that says "Mac OS X - It Pwns Vista"?

EDIT 2:
One of the Mac Pro BTO options is FOUR Geforce 7300 GT's. You can SLI with four GPUs? When did that happen?

Also, Ace, there's some unannounced big secret about Tiger that they're not telling us yet.

All the woodcrest chips require the usage of FB-DIMMs for RAM. These aren't the standard DIMMs that you stick into a PC, but rather are designed for server usage. Naturally, they're more expensive.

Praxis wrote:One of the Mac Pro BTO options is FOUR Geforce 7300 GT's. You can SLI with four GPUs? When did that happen?

It's not SLI, I think. I think each needs to be driving a seperate display, instead of all 4 driving one display. In any case, 4x7300GTs probably still won't stack up against 1x 7900GT.

Yes, yet they are apprently quite worth it.

Beowulf wrote:All the woodcrest chips require the usage of FB-DIMMs for RAM. These aren't the standard DIMMs that you stick into a PC, but rather are designed for server usage. Naturally, they're more expensive.

And I thought Apple overcharged on RAM *before*...

Nearly $6000 to max the RAM out. Granted, that's 16 GB of RAM.

Praxis wrote:

Beowulf wrote:All the woodcrest chips require the usage of FB-DIMMs for RAM. These aren't the standard DIMMs that you stick into a PC, but rather are designed for server usage. Naturally, they're more expensive.

And I thought Apple overcharged on RAM *before*...

Nearly $6000 to max the RAM out. Granted, that's 16 GB of RAM.

Neweggs price is $367 for a stick of 2GB. Comes out to about a $100 markup over retail, so yeah, they're ripping you off, but it's pretty hard to find in the first place too. For a 1GB stick, it's $200. I don't think they're actually overcharging on RAM anymore than usual.

Leopard's going to eat Vista for lunch. Time Machine is beyond cool, and having Exposé for desktops just fucking rocks. And we haven't even seen everything yet. I imagine that Safari and the Finder are due for big changes as well.

Wait, doncha work for Apple now? Arn't you supposed to have acess to the Leopard dev kits if you are to develop for it?

Durandal wrote:Leopard's going to eat Vista for lunch. Time Machine is beyond cool, and having Exposé for desktops just fucking rocks. And we haven't even seen everything yet. I imagine that Safari and the Finder are due for big changes as well.

Do you think Vista will ship on time, or will Leopard beat it to market?

Wait, doncha work for Apple now? Arn't you supposed to have acess to the Leopard dev kits if you are to develop for it?

I could get access for $99 if I felt like it
EDIT: Crap, nevermind, Apple Student Developers get all the developer perks EXCEPT pre-release software. Bah.

Ace Pace wrote:Wait, doncha work for Apple now? Arn't you supposed to have acess to the Leopard dev kits if you are to develop for it?

Not yet I don't. I start in September.

And besides, I'm willing to bet that the previews the developers are getting today aren't feature-complete. They're developer previews, so the important thing was to get the new development tools out the door (Xcode 3.0 is giving me warm feelings in my pants) and let developers test their stuff against the new API implementations. Whether Safari's got New Feature X is pretty much irrelevant for a developer preview.

Praxis wrote:Do you think Vista will ship on time, or will Leopard beat it to market?

I've always expected Vista to have one more delay. But that's just a hunch. Worst-case scenario, Microsoft releases Vista late and uses their gigantic marketing budget to drown Leopard's release out. Best case, Microsoft releases Vista on-time, and Leopard comes in a few months later and makes it look like shit.

Seriously, I can't wait to play around with Time Machine. I don't give a shit if Microsoft had System Restore first or if Vista is going to have similar file recovery features. Time Machine is way the fuck cooler.

Time machine is so fucking cool, but I have to ask wheres the space for it? Wouldn't it require a shitton of extra HD space?