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DirectX 9.L will be a DirectX 10 for Windows XP[Inq stupid]

Posted: 2006-10-16 11:13am
by Ace Pace
This makes no sense at all.

WE MANAGED TO glean a few facts about the upcoming DirectX 9.0 L we told you about here.

DirectX 9.0 L is simply a renamed and refurbished DirectX 10 for Windows XP. It will make DirectX 10 games to work on Windows XP.

And games such as the upcoming Crysis won't work on the existing DirectX 9.0 c. they need a DirectX 9.0 L

One of the biggest issues is the fact that Nvidia or ATI won't have any mainstream or entry-level cards until at least mid- to end of Q1 2007. This suggests that if Vista tips up around the beginning of the year, gamers will be turned off by it.

Electronic Arts, the publisher of Crysis, wants to sell hundreds or thousands, even millions of copies and we doubt that Nvidia can produce and sell that many Geforce 8800 GTX and GTS cards.

It will be interesting to see whether the Windows XP Crysis will be different from the Vista ones. ยต
This makes no sense at all, at most this sounds like a capability to have DX10 games run at DX9 mode on Windows XP. :?

Posted: 2006-10-16 11:15am
by Uraniun235
I have heard rumors on the internets that mid-range (read: reasonably priced) DX10 cards will not be available until mid-2007.

confirm/deny

Posted: 2006-10-16 11:22am
by Ace Pace
Confirm.

Schedule currently looks like this for first generation cards:

nVidia, early november(week 45?), the 8800 series, $400+, $650 for the GTX.

ATi, early january for high end.

nVidia, early spring for midrange.

First DX10 cards will be hot, and very power hungry.

Posted: 2006-10-16 11:35am
by Arrow
Ok, obviously the Inq. idiots can't read. MS has already stated that DX9.0L is DX9 for Vista, so Vista can run today's games (since DX10 strips the old stuff out to make room for its new architecture). I mean, how many IGN and Gamespot articles have we had covering this? Morons.

As for GPU the schedule, the Geforce 8800GTX and GTS will be launched/available on Nov. 7-8th, during their Geforce LAN 3 gaming event. We should also be seeing more info about the chip after a press event on the 18th of this month. Nvnews.net has a few threads in the Hardware rumors section about the G80, which is were I'm drawing this info from; so don't take it as 100% set in stone, but this seems to be how Nvidia is going to do things.

As for the R600, it looks like it will be late January/early February, based on comments from folks under NDA or talking to people under NDA. How accurate this is, I have no idea. Also, the R600 specs are still vague, but 512-bit physical memory bus and a price tag of $700 have been tossed around.

Also, their are already rumors of a G80 refresh occuring as early as March, but take those with salt.

Posted: 2006-10-16 11:43am
by Ace Pace
I wouldn't be suprised from a very early refresh of the G80. The G80 is built on a reletively large nm scale, and it going to be quite expensive to produce.

Posted: 2006-10-16 11:54am
by Arrow
Ace Pace wrote:I wouldn't be suprised from a very early refresh of the G80. The G80 is built on a reletively large nm scale, and it going to be quite expensive to produce.
True, but five months is pushing it a little. I can see a refresh happening mid-summer, easly. The only way I can see Nvidia moving fast enough to do a March refresh is if the R600 is big threat.

Posted: 2006-10-16 11:56am
by Ace Pace
It's all in the air right now, we know that second gen DX10 cards will be built at lower nm number, probebly far lower. The question is when.

On that note, to finsh hijacking this thing, have you read about the intel layoffs?


*considers hijacking his own thread, why not*

Posted: 2006-10-16 12:03pm
by Arrow
Ace Pace wrote:On that note, to finsh hijacking this thing, have you read about the intel layoffs?
The ones did a month or so ago as part of a restruction? Or are these new ones?

Also, didn't Intel hire some well known graphics hardware talent recently, or am I misremembering something I read?

Oh, and then there's the latest rumors of an Nvidia/Intel alliance (which came out after the Intel buys Nvidia rumor was shown to be false).

Posted: 2006-10-16 12:07pm
by Ace Pace
Arrow wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:On that note, to finsh hijacking this thing, have you read about the intel layoffs?
The ones did a month or so ago as part of a restruction? Or are these new ones?
Well, those ongoing ones.

Guess whats the only sector in intel getting hires?
Thats right, motherflaming Intel Haifa. Of Banias, Dothan, Yonah, merom, and basicly the entire Core line. 1500 new hires.
Also, didn't Intel hire some well known graphics hardware talent recently, or am I misremembering something I read?
No idea.
Oh, and then there's the latest rumors of an Nvidia/Intel alliance (which came out after the Intel buys Nvidia rumor was shown to be false).
Still in rumour stage.

Posted: 2006-10-17 09:22am
by Ace Pace