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G80 Die pic
Posted: 2006-10-25 12:32pm
by Ace Pace
That thing is fucking huge.
Posted: 2006-10-25 02:29pm
by phongn
Well, the thing has 128 pipelines ...
Posted: 2006-10-25 02:31pm
by Ace Pace
750 million transistors, a 384-bit memory bus...
Posted: 2006-10-25 02:42pm
by Admiral Valdemar
And a partridge in a pear tree.
So how much is it and would it be worth those Queen's heads anyway?
Posted: 2006-10-25 02:47pm
by Beowulf
Hey, only one PCIe power connector. A bit of surprise, that.
Posted: 2006-10-25 02:48pm
by Ace Pace
Admiral Valdemar wrote:And a partridge in a pear tree.
So how much is it and would it be worth those Queen's heads anyway?
$500+ For the GTS(or is it GT?), and it's looking to be screaming fast.
Look for benchs around november 7-8 as NDAs lift.
Posted: 2006-10-26 02:15am
by Darth Quorthon
Beowulf wrote:Hey, only one PCIe power connector. A bit of surprise, that.
Allegedly, that's just the GTS. The GTX will reportedly require two PCI-E power connectors:
Time for that 1 kW PSU...
Posted: 2006-10-26 02:40am
by Einhander Sn0m4n
For a second I was expecting octacontahedral dice!
Posted: 2006-10-26 01:55pm
by Arthur_Tuxedo
Recommended PSU wattage on the GTX is only 450, the same as a 6800 Ultra. It's more power hungry than a 7-series GTX, but not by any stratospheric amounts. You could probably power it with a 300 or 350 Watt if it's a high quality unit.
Posted: 2006-10-26 01:56pm
by Ace Pace
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Recommended PSU wattage on the GTX is only 450, the same as a 6800 Ultra. It's more power hungry than a 7-series GTX, but not by any stratospheric amounts. You could probably power it with a 300 or 350 Watt if it's a high quality unit.
It's still going to be flaming hot.
Posted: 2006-10-26 02:19pm
by Shinova
Is this is one of those DX10 cards everyone's been waiting for?
Posted: 2006-10-26 02:19pm
by Ace Pace
Shinova wrote:Is this is one of those DX10 cards everyone's been waiting for?
Yes....
Posted: 2006-10-26 04:56pm
by Ypoknons
They have seperate PSU for graphics cards as well as real 1000W PSU designs ready for these monsters.
Posted: 2006-10-26 05:40pm
by phongn
Imagine the quad-SLI configurations of those things.
Posted: 2006-10-26 07:34pm
by Darth Quorthon
Here's a rumored picture of an 8800GTX from ASUS.
As for Quad SLI, I imagine two of those monsters in SLI will be adequate- NVIDIA is recommending an 800W PSU for that, IIRC. And your PC could double as a Foreman Grill.
Posted: 2006-10-26 07:56pm
by Arthur_Tuxedo
People always predict that new generations of cards will be hugely hotter and more power hungry than the last, and they're always wrong. There are upward trends, to be sure, but they're very gradual. Anyone who buys a 1 kW PSU is an idiot, quite frankly.
As for NVidia's recommended wattage, this is what you have to understand: They're making those recommendations based on shitty PSU's that don't put out half as much power as they claim, and then adding an additional safety factor on top of that. The day a system with SLI'd 8800 GTX's draws 800 watts is the day it snows in Hell. Even 450 or 500 Watts would be good enough, given a quality manufacturer. It's good to be conservative about these things, but don't be so ridiculously conservative that you're spending $200 on a PSU when you only needed to spend $50.
As for Quad SLI, I'd call it unlikely. The 7950 GX2 was made possible by the low power consumption and heat output of the 7-series. There's a reason we haven't seen a similar offering from ATI, and it's the same reason we probably won't see an 8-series GX2 unless the refresh part is a lot cooler running.
Posted: 2006-10-27 07:44am
by Arrow
Oh great, we have to have this thread on the two days I'm on travel, and force to surf the net over a shitty VPN/Remote Desktop connection... Damn you, Ace!
As for Quad SLI, we'll probably see it again after the G80's refresh next year. ATI is also rumored to be work on "Trifire" and "Quadfire", which is Crossfire with 3 and 4 graphics cards.
From various leaked benchmarks, the G80 is 70% to up to 300% faster than a 7950 GX2; these scores have stired a ton of debate, too. I'm hoping they're true, becaused I'd like to get away from SLI for running my high res display.
Posted: 2006-10-27 07:59am
by Ace Pace
Arrow wrote:Oh great, we have to have this thread on the two days I'm on travel, and force to surf the net over a shitty VPN/Remote Desktop connection... Damn you, Ace!
I live for GPUs.
And you have time, benchs get revealed Nov 7.
As for Quad SLI, we'll probably see it again after the G80's refresh next year. ATI is also rumored to be work on "Trifire" and "Quadfire", which is Crossfire with 3 and 4 graphics cards.
Possible, ATi has just moved to a new Crossfire system that enables better chip to chip communication, this could easily be modified to include more cards, but the PCBs would have to be predesigned, or we'll be once again back to a Master Crossfire card with 2-3 Crossfire connectors and other stock cards.
From various leaked benchmarks, the G80 is 70% to up to 300% faster than a 7950 GX2; these scores have stired a ton of debate, too. I'm hoping they're true, becaused I'd like to get away from SLI for running my high res display.
I'd like to see a source, the interesting thing in this case with the G80 is that it's 'stream processors', and the breakdown of vertex and pixel pipelines is not clear. However, there should still be some distinction because as far as I know, this is not a unified shader part and none of the G80 line will be unified.
Posted: 2006-10-27 08:37am
by Arrow
Ace Pace wrote:
I'd like to see a source, the interesting thing in this case with the G80 is that it's 'stream processors', and the breakdown of vertex and pixel pipelines is not clear. However, there should still be some distinction because as far as I know, this is not a unified shader part and none of the G80 line will be unified.
The leaked benchmarks have mostly been coming from Asian forums, and they've been discussed a ton on nvnews and beyond3d. Also, according to DailyTech's article last month, the G80 is unified; however, there has been debate on just what definition of "unified" Nvidia is using.
For someone who lives for GPUs, you should know this!
Like you said, we'll have to wait for November.
Posted: 2006-10-27 08:39am
by Ace Pace
Arrow wrote:
The leaked benchmarks have mostly been coming from Asian forums, and they've been discussed a ton on nvnews and beyond3d. Also, according to DailyTech's article last month, the G80 is unified; however, there has been debate on just what definition of "unified" Nvidia is using.
For someone who lives for GPUs, you should know this!
Like you said, we'll have to wait for November.
Bah, I've been out of the loop of the 80 page rumour threads.
EDIT: just saw the numbers.
Jesus fucking mary on a pogo stick, thats the gap like the 6800GT and the 9800XT.
Posted: 2006-10-27 04:40pm
by Arthur_Tuxedo
Trifire and quadfire, huh? Maybe if they put a whole bunch of them together, they'll call it 'Gridfire'.