In all of your experience...

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-05-30 08:29am

In answer to how many worlds where in the Dune Imperium i remember the figure of 1,000,000 worlds being mentioned ib one of the prequals, however anything in the prequals is suspect IMHO.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-05-30 01:00pm

Vympel wrote:The OP stated within the SW universe.

I reject that the Sith Empire could do it, they never held what the Galactic Republic held,

Except that the Sith did take down the government. Once they at least caused a major reformation, the other the Empire rose up.

and the demonstrated firepower of their one-trick-pony vessels is low compared to BDZ capability.

You base this off what? We never saw the Sith Empire have their ships fire upon anything we could use to determine their power. The ship in KOTOR wasn't a ship of the Sith Empire and that bombardment is contradicted by the ICS which states that the technology level has been stagenet well before that time.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-05-30 02:02pm

Ender wrote:Except that the Sith did take down the government. Once they at least caused a major reformation, the other the Empire rose up.

The Brotherhood of Darkness is not the Sith Empire.

Ender wrote:The ship in KOTOR wasn't a ship of the Sith Empire and that bombardment is contradicted by the ICS which states that the technology level has been stagenet well before that time.

Not that I don't want it to be true, but where does it say that?

Black Admiral · Post by **Black Admiral** » 2004-05-30 02:13pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Not that I don't want it to be true, but where does it say that?

Page 3, where it's stated that the 'basic attributes of starflight have remained constant' since the discovery of the hyperdrive.

DocHorror · Post by **DocHorror** » 2004-05-30 06:48pm

The Imperium of Man from Warhammer could probably go tet-a-tet with the Empire, if they didn't have to fight off Chaos, Orks, Eldar, Necrons, Dark Eldar, Rogue Psykers, Heretics, Enslavers, Tyranids and god knows what other horrible beasties.

Personally I reacon a Great Crusade-era Imperium could trounce the Empire. But thats just MHO.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-05-30 07:12pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Ender wrote:Except that the Sith did take down the government. Once they at least caused a major reformation, the other the Empire rose up.
The Brotherhood of Darkness is not the Sith Empire.

I reject the idea that it wasd Kahn and his followers who did it, based on the fact that he had only established his army of a little over a dozen followers in 6 months going by the story in Gamer #5. (it occurs 6 months prior to the battle of russan, and Kahn was just then calling up his forces). Insufficient time and people. Remember, Kun took years and had several armies and navies at his command along with a strategic weapon and had arranged the destruction of the Republic's fleet. And even he didn't do it.

I believe it is more likely that the remnants of the Sith Empire still survived and struck yet again and that Kahn and his group where the last of them following a large war that brought down the republic or at least triggered the reformation. This has some support because Geonosis and the Rim worlds mentions at least one world (Thule) that has been a haven for the remnants of the Sith Empire for thousands of years that the Sith have called upon.

Ender wrote:The ship in KOTOR wasn't a ship of the Sith Empire and that bombardment is contradicted by the ICS which states that the technology level has been stagenet well before that time.
Not that I don't want it to be true, but where does it say that?

Opening page it states that the basis of spaceflight has been stagenent for thousands of years IIRC.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-05-30 07:13pm

DocHorror wrote:The Imperium of Man from Warhammer could probably go tet-a-tet with the Empire, if they didn't have to fight off Chaos, Orks, Eldar, Necrons, Dark Eldar, Rogue Psykers, Heretics, Enslavers, Tyranids and god knows what other horrible beasties.

Personally I reacon a Great Crusade-era Imperium could trounce the Empire. But thats just MHO.

Been debated. While their weapons have power, they have been so specialized for fighting one another for so long they would be much less effective agaisnt SW. Plus the numbers are on the Empire's side.

DocHorror · Post by **DocHorror** » 2004-05-31 05:31pm

Oh I know its been debated, its more a personal preference.

Im more than aware of how insane the out-put of the Empire can be.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2004-06-01 08:28am

Ender wrote:Been debated. While their weapons have power, they have been so specialized for fighting one another for so long they would be much less effective agaisnt SW. Plus the numbers are on the Empire's side.

Power on the same general scale yes, but it's like more than 1:10 in the Empires favor in what a comparable sized ship can dish out.