SW explosives

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-12 08:34pm

Yes this is probasbly the wrong forum, but I will probably get the best answers here. Besides, it is relevent to WvsT.

What is used as the explosive in wars missile weapons? Chemical can pretty well be ruled out. Baradium is only in TDs. What could they use to get such a yield from such tiny missiles? Look at the size of proton torps. Tiny buggers. But pack 200 MT. Could M/AM be packed in ther, with fuel and guidence circutry? Given the density hypermatter is stored at, isn't that ruled out as that much mass would screw up the balance of the ship in flight in a grav well?

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-11-12 08:37pm

Good bye thread.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2002-11-12 11:47pm

Some bizarre material called Nergon 14 is used in protorps. Dunno whats used in concussion missiles.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-11-13 06:27pm

A 200MT explosion would only require a few kilograms of Antimatter, so the effects of mass change woulodn't be that bad, even with a dozen. I'm thinking it's in the arming shell, and the energy is transferred to the warhead. But, the protorp explosion weren't KE explosions.

I'm confused onw...

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-13 06:35pm

Some bizarre material called Nergon 14 is used in protorps. Dunno whats used in concussion missiles.

Nergon 14 is not the material used on torps, Nergon 14 is the equivant of a 20X more Effective C-4 as a *Speeder Full(*Note Speeders are one,two or four seater hovering cars like the one Luke has or the one Anakin "borrows" they are not trucks or anything here yet they are expected to blow up Generators and Powerplants most of which have meter thick Duracrete extitors and to do it easily

Considering its stuffed in the interiors of the Cars and not sitting in the back seat or anything your talking about Kiloton exposison from less than thirty pounds of material that is NOT exocite(Nergon 14 is a very refined chemical)

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-13 07:46pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:A 200MT explosion would only require a few kilograms of Antimatter, so the effects of mass change woulodn't be that bad, even with a dozen. I'm thinking it's in the arming shell, and the energy is transferred to the warhead. But, the protorp explosion weren't KE explosions. I'm confused onw...

With teh mass I was referring to hypermatter. And as for AM, I have problems there because torps are very stable until armed, once armed if they are hit your screwed. So while the latter supports AM, the former part does not.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-13 07:53pm

With teh mass I was referring to hypermatter.

Except Hypermater cant be used on somthing as small as a X-wing(Ref Orgional ICS) it uses a "Fusion" Engine to power it, unknow what kind of Fusion

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-13 08:19pm

Mr Bean wrote:
With teh mass I was referring to hypermatter.
Except Hypermater cant be used on somthing as small as a X-wing(Ref Orgional ICS) it uses a "Fusion" Engine to power it, unknow what kind of Fusion

Exactly.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2002-11-13 10:57pm

Mr Bean wrote:
Some bizarre material called Nergon 14 is used in protorps. Dunno whats used in concussion missiles.
Nergon 14 is not the material used on torps, Nergon 14 is the equivant of a 20X more Effective C-4 as a *Speeder Full(*Note Speeders are one,two or four seater hovering cars like the one Luke has or the one Anakin "borrows" they are not trucks or anything here yet they are expected to blow up Generators and Powerplants most of which have meter thick Duracrete extitors and to do it easily

Considering its stuffed in the interiors of the Cars and not sitting in the back seat or anything your talking about Kiloton exposison from less than thirty pounds of material that is NOT exocite(Nergon 14 is a very refined chemical)

You know, I Really wish you'd go and check your sources before making half-assed comments like this and forcing me to correct you:

Nergon 14: "An unstable, explosive element, it is a main component in Imperial proton torpedoes. A pulsating blue color when inert, nergon 14changes first to bright red and then to white before it explodes."

SWE, page 209.

See, it IS used on torps. As well as in kamikaze terrorist attacks like what Kirtan Loor's intelligence cells did in Krytos Trap (the so called reference you were making, I imagine.) Given that protorps have variable yields (from low KT to high GT or more), it infers that varying qualities or densities can exist (or there are other materials used to achieve proton torpedo detonations.)

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-13 11:11pm

Point Concided Connor MacLeod
I seem to have confused Nergon 14 with somthing else(I am at the moment refing my chemical knowledge(It all started when I got curious as to the Chemical Properties of Enistienium) and not enough sleep so I probably switched the two in my head and spewed forth the resulting BS that I posted

Thank you for catching my error

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2002-11-13 11:17pm

Mr Bean wrote:Point Concided Connor MacLeod
I seem to have confused Nergon 14 with somthing else(I am at the moment refing my chemical knowledge(It all started when I got curious as to the Chemical Properties of Enistienium) and not enough sleep so I probably switched the two in my head and spewed forth the resulting BS that I posted

Thank you for catching my error

ok. No problem.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-14 12:48am

Incidentally, concussion grenades use some other form of explosive.

omegaLancer · Post by **omegaLancer** » 2002-11-14 05:51am

Well some of the explosive are micro fusion bombs. From SW website :

"The heart of a thermal detonator's explosive power is the compact sphere of volatile baradium found inside a thermite shell. Once the thumb trigger is activated, the baradium enters a state of fusion reaction that creates an expandable particle field capable of disintegrating everything within a 20-meter blast radius. The detonator is typically set on a timer, since the explosive radius is quite large and represents an extreme hazard to the weapon's bearer.

Although a variety of detonators exist, almost all are very carefully regulated and outright illegal to own. The Merr-Sonn Munitions Class-A thermal detonator is an extremely powerful model. Baradium is dangerously unstable, and fusion reactions have been known to start due to improper handling or jarring of the detonator"..

apparentily they are capable of fusion without a A bomb to start the process. Baradium is said to be a Man made element and does not occur in nature.

there is also mention of using Mouns and Mesons as explosive ( How ?) So the more powerful explosives are most likely using exotic particles interactions to create the effect. Proton torpedoes are proton scattering devices (Some kind of fusion bomb, again without an A bomb to trigger it?)..

Concussion Missile are said to be atomic ( A - H bomb ?)warhead that uses the the blast to generate a Kinetic force wave.

We know that Carbonite can be used to prevent the release of energy (it use to process Tibanna and lock the energy in it.) the object encase in it is place in stasis.. So it very likely that rare extermely energic unstable processes can be made stable in this manner. ( like a micro black hole in the process of envaporating) and their energies held in suspension until one wish to release it.

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