About cap ship killer torp weapons

[Rightous Fist Of Heaven]

I need some info of these. I heard numbers around 15-50GT being thrown around for the anti cap ship torpedoes that B-Wings for one can carry.

Can anyone post some background info of these and more info about the yields?

[Illuminatus Primus]

I don't have information, but I'm guessing those are a brand of the "advanced proton torpedoes" carried on board B-Wings. The B-Wing was designed to knocked out light Imperial frigates such as the Nebelon B Escort Frigate.

[Howedar]

I need some info of these. I heard numbers around 15-50GT being thrown around for the anti cap ship torpedoes that B-Wings for one can carry.

Can anyone post some background info of these and more info about the yields?

They are just speculation AFAIK, but they must exist, else B-wings would be no threat to capships. We know they are, hence GT-level torpedos.

[Mr Bean]

10 GT seems to be the minium nessary to threaten Frigtens and smaller

[SPOOFE]

Well, divide that by two, since most torpedoes seem designed to launch in pairs...

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

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[Ender]

I got them from the Isards revenge bit and Bean's work on shields.

Bean worked out 40 TT per section particle. Divide that by 80, the concussions the vic could launch in a volley, and you get 500 GT capital grade Concussion Missiles. Since we know from EGWT that upgraded CMs are equal to PTs of a lower scale, this gives fighters 500 GT torps. For an X-wing squad attack run, this ends up at 12 TT, enough to make a small hole in a section of the shields, which is what is described in the novels.

[Darth Wong]

If we restrict ourselves to published specs, the SW2ICS indicates that Slave-1's missiles are roughly 12 GT. And these are highly maneuverable, fast missiles, not like the ponderous "space bombs" and other heavy weapons.

[Sea Skimmer]

If we restrict ourselves to published specs, the SW2ICS indicates that Slave-1's missiles are roughly 12 GT. And these are highly maneuverable, fast missiles, not like the ponderous "space bombs" and other heavy weapons.

IIRC 12 gigatons is what the mines are listed as, the missiles where 190 megatons or so.

[Howedar]

Correct, the missiles were 190MT. One can surmise that anti-capship missiles would have bigger warheads and less maneuverability, though.

[Phil Skayhan]

During the battle of Endor

http://www.skayhan.net/Torp.htm

Does SWICS2 shed any light on these?

It might be interesting to compare the speed of these to the Slave I missile....

[Rightous Fist Of Heaven]

Allright thanks. And about the Slave 1 missiles, the biggest CM and PT versions carried by bombers are likely a lot more powerfull and bigger since the missile Slave 1 fired in AOTC was actually quite small.

[The Dark]

Allright thanks. And about the Slave 1 missiles, the biggest CM and PT versions carried by bombers are likely a lot more powerfull and bigger since the missile Slave 1 fired in AOTC was actually quite small.

"Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you?"-Master Yoda

I get your point, but it's not necessarily true. Modern missiles are smaller than old ones yet more powerful. It all depends on the evidence, and (unfortunately) size-yield ratios are hard to prove.

[Rightous Fist Of Heaven]

Allright thanks. And about the Slave 1 missiles, the biggest CM and PT versions carried by bombers are likely a lot more powerfull and bigger since the missile Slave 1 fired in AOTC was actually quite small.

"Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you?"-Master Yoda

I get your point, but it's not necessarily true. Modern missiles are smaller than old ones yet more powerful. It all depends on the evidence, and (unfortunately) size-yield ratios are hard to prove.

Yup but if the cap killer versions of PT's work on the same principle as the normal ones then there must be more reacting material on them or something to increase the yield.

[Illuminatus Primus]

The heavy warheads also don't appear to have as extensive a range....the missile fired by Slave 1 was highly intelligent, very manuverable, AND followed Obi-Wan's fighter for over multi-tens-of-km ranges IMHO or so through the asteroid belt at high speed.

Space bombs, etc would appear to be used only at limited ranges in the official data, really for close-in strafing runs.

I'd say that SW heavy missiles are intended for use against capital ships when they've lost part of their shields and roll over to expose the opposite, still-shielded side. Fighters can loop around and bomb the unshielded area of the ship, hoping to inflict significant damage.

[nightmare]

The heavy warheads also don't appear to have as extensive a range....the missile fired by Slave 1 was highly intelligent, very manuverable, AND followed Obi-Wan's fighter for over multi-tens-of-km ranges IMHO or so through the asteroid belt at high speed.

Space bombs, etc would appear to be used only at limited ranges in the official data, really for close-in strafing runs.

I'd say that SW heavy missiles are intended for use against capital ships when they've lost part of their shields and roll over to expose the opposite, still-shielded side. Fighters can loop around and bomb the unshielded area of the ship, hoping to inflict significant damage.

That's not really due to limited range. The heavier gear is slower so they cover less space in the same time as a CM or so. Space bombs and the like are dropped practically on the target so the defenders can't shoot them down or move away before it hits. I agree on the latter part though.

[Mad]

During the battle of Endor

http://www.skayhan.net/Torp.htm

Does SWICS2 shed any light on these?

It might be interesting to compare the speed of these to the Slave I missile....

What I'd like to see, is an estimate of the X-wing's lasers (which caused a much bigger explosion -- and damaged the hull) in that same scene:

The left frame has the white blast, and the right frame shows the fire that resulted (the flame is about the size of the X-wing itself). A black scorch mark/hole around the impact can be made out, as well. The damage was caused by 2 or 3 blasts (I forget which).

Okay, yeah, it's off of this subject... still, it's interesting.

[Phil Skayhan]

During the battle of Endor

http://www.skayhan.net/Torp.htm

Does SWICS2 shed any light on these?

It might be interesting to compare the speed of these to the Slave I missile....

What I'd like to see, is an estimate of the X-wing's lasers (which caused a much bigger explosion -- and damaged the hull) in that same scene:

The left frame has the white blast, and the right frame shows the fire that resulted (the flame is about the size of the X-wing itself). A black scorch mark/hole around the impact can be made out, as well. The damage was caused by 2 or 3 blasts (I forget which).

Okay, yeah, it's off of this subject... still, it's interesting.

Yes it is. I never noticed that before.

I've been wondering for a time if this was the Executor. If it is, then this suggests that the bridge deflectors were already beginning to fail. Does anyone know if this is the command ship? Can we identify it based on the globes and bridge variation. I believe Saxton had this as a third tpe of bridge.

Sorry I didn't see your post or a few days.

[Mad]

I've been wondering for a time if this was the Executor. If it is, then this suggests that the bridge deflectors were already beginning to fail. Does anyone know if this is the command ship? Can we identify it based on the globes and bridge variation. I believe Saxton had this as a third tpe of bridge.

Yes, Saxton discusses this tower under "multi-nodular towers" on the Bridge Towers page. He doesn't believe it's the Executor's tower for several reasons (the tower neck, the large nodule is broader than Executor's, and the smaller nodules don't exist on Executor).

It'd be really nice if it was the Executor, but, alas, it isn't. A few possibilities he mentions are: third ISD subclass (ISD-III?), the communications ship from the RotJ novelization, or perhaps the Accusor. Or something completely different.

In any case, the damage to the tower is what's interresting.. it looks to be quite a bit bigger than 60 gigajoules.