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Well, it still doesn't change the fact that otherwise there's no other slow motion anywhere in Star Wars, even anywhere else in ESB.
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Don't forget the slo-mo used when Vader kills Kenobi in ANH!

Mike's bitching about the super popular LOTR series's overuse of closeups with slo-mo during scenes that were supposed to be really emotional. I got tired of that aspect too, but I still loved that series (haven't even read the books yet).

Certain camera tricks I really dislike though, such as the "shakey camera to simulate a battle" thing that's overused in so many action movies these days (thankfully not in Star Wars). I'm not talking a slight wobble (which gets overused in Neo-BSG, though can be ignored if you try), but grab-your-face-and-put-it-in-a-paint-mixer shaking and those cheesey strobe effects (achieved by lowering the framerate to give fight scenes a choppy feel).

Again, they wouldn't be so bad if they weren't overused so much and used on entire scenes that would have been fine without.


I think for the most part Star Wars DOES take itself seriously what with all the tense moments and dramatic music and themes, and the comic bits are often jarring as a result, as if they don't really belong. I'm not talking a joke thrown out by some character, in-character, but the cartoon laugh moments like Jar Jar being farted on or stepping in crap, the droids making whimsical noises and yelps of pain in their high pitched voices (ROTS, in sharp contrast to the rest of the PT) which always seem to be tossed into otherwise intense scenes. Subtle is good. It's just when Star Wars tries to be a cute laugh-fest at the same time as a sweeping space opera it sort of gets lost in my opinion.

It's like the cheap laughs they used Gimli's character for in the Two Towers. Some may feel this all enhances the movie even after repeated viewings and is necessary to break in non-fans for the saturday matinee crowd, I dunno, I think it's pretty hit 'n' miss, and much of it could have been cut and been less annoying.
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Kurgan wrote:Don't forget the slo-mo used when Vader kills Kenobi in ANH!
Embarassingly enough, I did. I wonder if that'll get put back to normal speed. You know, how Lucas always intended it? :wink: :P
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It's like the cheap laughs they used Gimli's character for in the Two Towers. Some may feel this all enhances the movie even after repeated viewings and is necessary to break in non-fans for the saturday matinee crowd, I dunno, I think it's pretty hit 'n' miss, and much of it could have been cut and been less annoying.
That´s my problem with Gimli in the movies, he´s the butt of all these stupid jokes and we´re supposed to think he´s a great fighter after all that. (It´s not as bad in FOTR, so it wasn´t a problem back then.)

The problem is, when he has his competition with Legolas during the battle of Helm´s Deep, he keeps lagging behind, and what should have been a mere stand-alone joke, just became another example of a pussified character. Ugh.
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VT-16 wrote:The problem is, when he has his competition with Legolas during the battle of Helm´s Deep, he keeps lagging behind, and what should have been a mere stand-alone joke, just became another example of a pussified character. Ugh.
Probably a nitpick, but in the extended version, it adds a scene where Gimli and Legolas compare notes and discover that in the end Gimli won. Of course, people who don't watch the extended version will never get that scene, and it leaves Gimli in the same predictament.

Anyway, I'm getting off the topic. I personally rather enjoyed the entirety of ROTS. The earlier battles weren't as emotionally gripping as, say, Hoth, but they were still awesome.
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