Bullet weapons in SW

Acclamator · Post by **Acclamator** » 2002-11-25 06:04pm

A better choice might have been:

Primitive?!

Point this one at your head, and let's see you call it 'primitive'

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-25 06:04pm

Kon_El wrote:the P90 is a cool looking gun aint it?

No, it's stupid looking I think, the Mp5 is definitly cooler.
Someone should make a new Mp5 that can outdo the P90, hahaha!

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-25 06:08pm

Bastard wrote:Which is dumb, since there is no mechanism in the entire universe by which a smaller-than-human-head warhead would deliver a yeild greater than the most powerful nukes. Not even M/AM annhialation (the most powerful type of reaction in the universe) would out-yeild a Tsara Bomba with a warhead smaller than a human head.

What is the most powerfull nuke in existance? The tsar bomb IIRC, at 100MT, with MA/AM you can squeeze oh atleast 10kg easily into a human sized container, that'd yield ~215MT

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-25 06:11pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:
Kon_El wrote:the P90 is a cool looking gun aint it?
No, it's stupid looking I think, the Mp5 is definitly cooler.
Someone should make a new Mp5 that can outdo the P90, hahaha!

By the time your done trying to match the performance you would have an all-new gun, but it would suck as a result of trying to retain the MP-5 look rather then starting from scratch . The P-90 PDW was meant to deal with targets in heavy body armor at under 100 meters. MP-5 SMG was mean to deal with unprotected targets. They require different guns, cartridges and favor much different calibers.

Just buy an MP-7 and be done with it.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-11-25 06:45pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:
Kon_El wrote:the P90 is a cool looking gun aint it?
No, it's stupid looking I think, the Mp5 is definitly cooler.
Someone should make a new Mp5 that can outdo the P90, hahaha!

Problem is when the technology finally evens out, Pullpup designs are superior to the traditional fire design. Any attempt to outdo the P90 will result in a better P90 made that outdoes the new traditional design.

Though I agree, the MP5 is a damned nice looking gun.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-25 07:25pm

Bastard wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Bastard wrote: And out the window goes the "Present day Earth armies would be powerless against stormtroopers because of their bulletproof armour" claim.
You do realize that fighter-sized explosives in their book means direction fusion devices who's yields exceed our most powerful nukes and are smaller then your head, yes?
Which is dumb, since there is no mechanism in the entire universe by which a smaller-than-human-head warhead would deliver a yeild greater than the most powerful nukes. Not even M/AM annhialation (the most powerful type of reaction in the universe) would out-yeild a Tsara Bomba with a warhead smaller than a human head.

If this is a figure from the ICS, it only demonstrates that Saxton is a hack with a poor grasp of science.

Do you grasp "PhD in Astrophysics"?

Perhaps not.

How about, "Shut the fuck up."

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-25 07:28pm

Saxton's job is not to apply "can we do it or not" to everything, but look at the explosion of Slave 1's missiles and produce the yield. It's "what" not "how."

And you're somehow more intelligent. All I've seen out of you on this forum is bullshit and inflamatory infantile proding. Go fuck yourself.

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2002-11-25 07:41pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:
IG-88E wrote: That and stormie armor is highly resistant to KE weapons.

The armor is but not the wearer nor the body glove part of the suit unless I'm mistaken.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-26 02:12am

Rubberanvil wrote:The armor is but not the wearer nor the body glove part of the suit unless I'm mistaken.

True, but thats not alot of places to shoot at, esp. not in a combat situation.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-26 10:19am

His Divine Shadow wrote:
Rubberanvil wrote:The armor is but not the wearer nor the body glove part of the suit unless I'm mistaken.
True, but thats not alot of places to shoot at, esp. not in a combat situation.

Aiming at the weak spots invariably makes it more likely that the shooter dies rather than the stormy.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-26 02:34pm

The point of stormtrooper armor is not to make a wearer 100% invincible to all weapons, but rather to make a stormtrooper incredibly resistant to small arms fire, as well as biological, chemical, and radioactive agents. The armor also provides excellent protection against vacuum.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-26 02:38pm

Bastard wrote: Which is dumb, since there is no mechanism in the entire universe by which a smaller-than-human-head warhead would deliver a yeild greater than the most powerful nukes. Not even M/AM annhialation (the most powerful type of reaction in the universe) would out-yeild a Tsara Bomba with a warhead smaller than a human head.

If this is a figure from the ICS, it only demonstrates that Saxton is a hack with a poor grasp of science.

This is not a figure from the ICS, but even if it were your point is still ludicrously stupid. Hyperdrives are also impossible, but they exist within the SW universe. Thus, we could point out that SW relies on impossible technology. When we examine fictional universes, we evaluate them on the basis of what they do. We use the principle of suspension of disbelief to allow ourselves to think about more than what is possible, but rather what we see.

Saxton, incidentally, is a doctor in astrophysics. I highly doubt that you are qualified enough to call him a "hack," given your latest "point."

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2002-11-28 12:09am

Back OT, in Episode One during the pod race, Tusken Raiders shoot at the pod racers numerous times using standard high power rifles.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » 2002-11-28 05:00am

kojikun wrote:Back OT, in Episode One during the pod race, Tusken Raiders shoot at the pod racers numerous times using standard high power rifles.

Weren't those blaster rifles?

Sardaukar · Post by **Sardaukar** » 2002-11-28 05:48am

Am I the only one here that has access to the dvds???
I'm just checking the Sand People's guns now....

Definately blasters.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-28 05:53am

Sardaukar wrote:Am I the only one here that has access to the dvds???
I'm just checking the Sand People's guns now....

Definately blasters.

Why do you say that?

Sardaukar · Post by **Sardaukar** » 2002-11-28 06:02am

They shoot red bolts, very similar to every other blaster bolt in the series. Rifles don't use tracers.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-28 06:12am

Sardaukar wrote:They shoot red bolts, very similar to every other blaster bolt in the series. Rifles don't use tracers.

Ours did once.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-11-28 02:00pm

Kinda looks like the Magnetic Accleration Gun from Demolition Man

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-28 02:02pm

Darth Pounder wrote: Kinda looks like the Magnetic Accleration Gun from Demolition Man

That's the HK G11, one of the most advanced assault rifles in the world. It never made it into general production because of some bullshit dispute in the German govt.

It was probably used as a model for the fusion gun in Demolition Man.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2002-11-28 02:15pm

That looks like a gun in Fallout 2 I can't remember the name of. It was a kickass small arms weapon using 4.7mm caseless ammo.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-28 02:20pm

The germans should make the Venom gun from Wolfenstein II

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2002-11-29 03:46pm

The HKG11, HKG11E, P90 9mm and P90 10mm are all in Fallout 2.

Kickass game.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-29 04:11pm

nightmare wrote:The HKG11, HKG11E, P90 9mm and P90 10mm are all in Fallout 2.

Kickass game.

Don't forget the BB gun. The best gun in the whole game.