Evidence of broadsides (all barrels on all guns) needed

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Evidence of broadsides (all barrels on all guns) needed

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This guy who im debating in MSN message boards refuses to acknowledge the shield figures for the ISD derived from Isards Revenge because he claims that an ISD cannot fire a full broadside with every single barrel. I provided him quotes from Isards Revenge and then a definition of the word broadside from the dictionary but he still claims that its not possible.
So does anyone have a clear quote or other evidence that an ISD can fire all its guns and barrels without any problems.
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At Endor an ISD can clearlt be seen giving a broad side to the Nebulon B Frigate.
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Broad side means all aviable guns

There are 50 MTL and 50 HTL's

So a broadsided of 32 MTL's and 38 HTL's are to be expected

Remeber its based on a dagger and both top AND bottom guns can fire on the same target unless its bleeping 2 inchs infront of it

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Here's a few quotes. Some given to me, some I've found:
Heir to the Empire, p182
All the Star Destroyer's batteries seemed to open up at once, and Luke suddenly found himself trying to dodge a virtual sandstorm of laser fire.
Clear enough. If all the weapons seemed to open up, then it's a good bet that most, if not all, of them did.
Agents of Chaos 1: Hero's Trial, page 181
Biding its time, the cruiser waited until the Yuuzhan Vong warship paused to repower, then it opened fire with all guns. Still stronger laser beams sliced through the night, some to be swallowed by gravitic anomalies, while others chipped away at the enemy ship's Yorik coral hull.
"All guns." Simple enough.
I, Jedi, p353
As the aft came around, the Invidious hit it with everything. The Harmzuay's aft looked like a black hole sucking in every green energy shaft the Invidious' guns spat out.
That might be from page 352, since I edited out a bunch of the multipage quote, and I'm currently letting someone borrow my copy of the book. Anyway, the ISD hit the Harmzuay "with everything" -- all guns. Accuracy was high, too. :mrgreen: Earlier in the quote HTL usage is described, and continued use is implied here.
The Krytos Trap, p324
The turbolaser batteries in the bow started firing at the skyhook as they came into range, then the broadside assault shifted to other weapons as the ship slid past. The verdant laser-bolts came so fast and so close that whole sheets of energy seemed to pulse from the Lusankya to the skyhook. In seconds what had once been an elegant disk with an Ithorian jungle paradise at its heart became a melted demilune with a forest fire crashing into the mountain district's towers.
All weapons didn't fire at once because they weren't all available due to angles. Still, the weapons that did fire were very close together and the assault only took "seconds" even though several of these salvos were fired.
The Krytos Trap, p325-26
The Lusankya continued to pour fire into the planetary shields while what little ground fire that came up at it splashed harmlessly on it shields. The midship and stern guns fought to keep the hole in the lower shields open while the bow guns blasted away at the upper shield. The ship's assault sent waves of Rodian green energy skittering along the underside of the shields. The shields held at first, then began to erode, and finally collapsed.
Guns from each section of the ship, and mentions of the "waves of ... energy" again.
The Bacta War, p307
Over a hundred starboard ion cannons fired back at the Freedom in a display so massive it appeared as if sheets of blue energy had erupted from the Lusankya's side.
Only a bit more than a hundred? Aww...
The Bacta War, p318
"Guns, let him have everything!"

"As ordered, Captain."

The Lusankya fired its starboard weapons at the Imperial Star Destroyer, mauling it mercilessly. Turbolasers crushed the shields while ion cannon beams skittered over the Freedom's hull. Concussion missiles peppered the smaller ship, opening huge hulls in the hull. Explosions wracked the Freedom, spraying debris in all directions.
Look, "everything" means everything. All guns -- turbolaser and ion cannons -- and even missiles.

Well, that's what I found after a quick search of the quotes I have stored on my computer.
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Ok thanks mad. The argument he is making however is that can all barrels on all HTLs be fired simultaneously. In a HTL turret there are 8 HTL guns AFAIK since each of the barrels is an individual weapon or gun and the definition of the word broadside is "discharge of all guns on other side of a ship". But anyways thanks for those quotes.
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Fist tell him they are DESIGNED to do just that

Instead of the Single Barrrel or Double Barrel MTL's and LTL's, HTL are DESIGNED to be fired in unison to quad aviable firepower and achive the nessary energy to hopefuly crack a small hole in the shields that the follow-up shots can take advantage of and bring down thier shields

Oh and don't forget thanks to Gat we know that Plantary HTL's have 25 Meter Barrels or to give you a nice comparsion

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HTL 984" Inch Guns

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So HTL's fire all together, and MTL/LTL fire independant? Makes sense to me. Seems that when a ISD or SSD is in full battle, it would be seem to basically pulse wave after wave of syncrionised shots from the HTL's.
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pellaeons_scion wrote:So HTL's fire all together, and MTL/LTL fire independant? Makes sense to me. Seems that when a ISD or SSD is in full battle, it would be seem to basically pulse wave after wave of syncrionised shots from the HTL's.
No, HTL turrets can be controlled individually, however they can also be fired together when they are linked in a battery. The LTL's and most of the MTL's are not parts of batteries, and hence cannot be fired simultaneously.
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