ISD Turret pics...

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2002-12-01 08:49am

Can anyone provide links some pictures of ISDs that clearly show TL turrets? Not tiny protuberances on the hull, but clearly seen barrels...

KG

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-12-01 08:50am

Can anyone provide links some pictures of ISDs that clearly show TL turrets? Not tiny protuberances on the hull, but clearly seen barrels...

Break into the Skywalker ranch and take snapshots of the Orgional Models

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-12-01 08:57am

Contact RFOH (ritious Fist Of Heaven) he desinged a model for the SW -v- ST Homeworld mod that shows an Imp Star II in that much detail.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-12-01 09:02am

Or simply look at the SW technical commentaries site:
pics of Avenger (ISD II):
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/exhibit/avenger.html
pics of Devastator (ISD I):
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/exhibit/devastator.html

Darth PhysBod · Post by **Darth PhysBod** » 2002-12-01 09:06am

These are some of the best close up's I've seen:

ISDI

http://www.starshipbuilder.com/star_des ... /isd05.JPG

http://www.starshipbuilder.com/star_des ... d_mg09.JPG

ISDII

http://www.starshipbuilder.com/star_des ... oyer17.JPG

http://www.starshipbuilder.com/star_des ... oyer18.JPG

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-01 09:44am

Note that on the Devastator (ISD1), some of the barrels for the HTLs have fallen off because of wear and tear on the model.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2002-12-01 09:54am

Vympel wrote:Note that on the Devastator (ISD1), some of the barrels for the HTLs have fallen off because of wear and tear on the model.

Indeed...I thought they looked rather weird...but the aft-most turret is clearly larger and of a different shape from the rest...any explanations?

KG

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-01 10:10am

kheegan wrote:
Vympel wrote:Note that on the Devastator (ISD1), some of the barrels for the HTLs have fallen off because of wear and tear on the model.
Indeed...I thought they looked rather weird...but the aft-most turret is clearly larger and of a different shape from the rest...any explanations?

KG

Those are the heavy ion cannon turrets according to the original ICS

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-12-01 11:37am

kheegan wrote:
Vympel wrote:Note that on the Devastator (ISD1), some of the barrels for the HTLs have fallen off because of wear and tear on the model.
Indeed...I thought they looked rather weird...but the aft-most turret is clearly larger and of a different shape from the rest...any explanations?

KG

The first 3 are HTLs. The last one is a HIC.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-12-01 12:48pm

The Rogue Leader developers should have studied the ISD II model harder.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2002-12-01 07:39pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:The Rogue Leader developers should have studied the ISD II model harder.

Pretty much every single EU source should have studied the models harder. Its VERY clear that there are 64 barels yet we are left with the 60 HTL number. The ISD-I is even worse.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-12-01 08:32pm

What do you mean by the ISD-I is worse? You mean in regard to firepower? Hell yeah. But I don't think you mean that. It's too obvious to be stated, and doesn't really relate to my post. I think you mean something else...so what DO you mean....eh? (Pokes CmdrWilkens with a stick as he says "eh," for emphasis.)

pellaeons_scion · Post by **pellaeons_scion** » 2002-12-01 09:04pm

Pardon the stupidity, but how do they get the 64 number anyway? From a very simple count of the Starboard/Port batteries I count 48 HTL's...wheres the rest? Are there HTL's mounted forward that we cant see? Maybe they are recessed into the hull..or something..

pellaeons_scion · Post by **pellaeons_scion** » 2002-12-01 09:06pm

Dammit...no edit function. I meant in reference to the ISD 2

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-12-01 09:06pm

Are there HTL's mounted forward that we cant see? Maybe they are recessed into the hull..or something..

There are Some in the Trench I belive, I do remeber two turret housings mounted 1/2 down the trench

pellaeons_scion · Post by **pellaeons_scion** » 2002-12-01 09:08pm

Do you mean the quad laser batteries in the trench slots? I thought they were just laser cannon, or maybe mtl not htl's

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2002-12-01 09:19pm

Hee hee. It looks like you're looking at just the pics from starship modeller. the perspective in those makes it look like there's only three 8-barreled turrets per side. check out the swtc pics, you can see that it's actually four per side. 2x4x8=64
The trench quad-guns are only on the ISD I.

pellaeons_scion · Post by **pellaeons_scion** » 2002-12-01 09:21pm

Ack! the power of mine stupidity blinds me

Knew I shoulda checked SWTC to confirm. BTW love the Laser quote AB

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2002-12-01 11:15pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:What do you mean by the ISD-I is worse? You mean in regard to firepower? Hell yeah. But I don't think you mean that. It's too obvious to be stated, and doesn't really relate to my post. I think you mean something else...so what DO you mean....eh? (Pokes CmdrWilkens with a stick as he says "eh," for emphasis.)

I mean that the tats for the ISD-I repeatedly mention 60 regular TLs (whatever egular can be taken as) to be the armament of the ISD-I when we can clearly see the 6 VHTL turrets and the 2 HIC turrets. Those two armament types are NEVER mentioned in the EU sources with reference to the ISD-I. Heck such armament types are not mentioned period let alone in reference to the ISD-I.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-12-01 11:18pm

Aha...