Confirmation of Imperial Droidekas

[Darth Fanboy]

I just picked up the seventh book in the Last of the Jedi series for my little brother. Of course, as with all Star Wars books I purchase or the little guy I have to *cough* review them for content so it is age appropriate *cough*.

Anyways, Stormtroopers are depicted as using Droidekas while attempting to apprehend fugitive Jedi on Coruscant. Whether this is a temproary stopgap measure in the aftermath of the Clone Wars or part of the integrating of Separatist droids into the Imperial Armed Forces I am unsure.

[Noble Ire]

The NEGtD notes that Palpatine requisitioned numerous CIS droids for his personal guard on Byss and other retreat worlds, among them Annihilator droids, AT-TE sized versions of Droidekas. Of course, the article in question does not note their large-scale integration into the Imperial Army, probably due to cost. Similarly, I suspect politics would have severely limited the long-term usage of Clone Wars-era combat automatons of any class; Palpatine wanted to maintain his image of benevolence, and supplementing his flesh-and-blood Stormtrooper cores with droids that had been used in war crimes beyond number might damage that veneer.

[Warsie]

Also, Palpatine used some of the CIS droids against CIS fortress worlds/CIS holdouts

[VT-16]

NEGtD also mentions dwarf spider droids being used as support weapons alongside Stormtroopers for much of the Empire's reign. The crab droids were used for live fire exercises on training worlds and later inspired the MT-AT in part.

[Ritterin Sophia]

In retrospect, I now understand the Mos Eisley bartender's hatred of droids, there was apparently at least one major battle on Tatooine between the Confederacy forces led by the General Sev'rance Tan and the Republic forces led by Jedi Master Echuu Shen-Jon, and looking at the scope of the war I'm willing to bet that prejudice is rather wide spread in galacy, which would account for Palpatine not equally integrating droids into his army. It would also explain, why the only human-sized combat droid they had designed looked like a more heavily armoured Stormtrooper. However, this is mere speculation on my part.

[The Spartan]

In retrospect, I now understand the Mos Eisley bartender's hatred of droids, *snip*

Not to mention that droids take up room and don't buy drinks.

[Cykeisme]

The droids were probably used simply because of their availability: abundant, and literally free of charge, after the coded mass deactivation order was transmitted at the conclusion of the Clone Wars.
However, as Noble Ire pointed out, prolonged use of significant numbers would incur maintenance costs and such, which aren't worth it when the Empire is deliberately steering away from the use of battle droids.

It would also explain, why the only human-sized combat droid they had designed looked like a more heavily armoured Stormtrooper. However, this is mere speculation on my part.

Speculation, but seems sound enough.
Additionally, assuming the "phases" of the Dark Trooper project are indeed phases, the final phase- and end result- of the program were armored exoskeletons that would still contain a human soldier (clone or otherwise).
If you buy into the stuff about clones having better initiative, adaptability and creativity than droids, I suppose fielding what is effectively an amalgam of the two would be ideal.

[Warsie]

It would also explain, why the only human-sized combat droid they had designed looked like a more heavily armoured Stormtrooper. However, this is mere speculation on my part.

The Empire did have projects to build droid TIEs, but the program was takn down by the Defiance Task Force. eventually, the program was restarted/etc with the TIE dronesand World Devadtators. I wonder how much CIS tech was used in that.

And the Dark Trooper thing, the reason Moch did it was because he enjoyed the hand-to-hand (Army) combat that tended to happen during the first months or so of the CW interestingly.

[Ritterin Sophia]

The Empire did have projects to build droid TIEs, but the program was takn down by the Defiance Task Force. eventually, the program was restarted/etc with the TIE dronesand World Devadtators. I wonder how much CIS tech was used in that.

World of difference there, civies won't know who's flying a TIE anyhow.

And the Dark Trooper thing, the reason Moch did it was because he enjoyed the hand-to-hand (Army) combat that tended to happen during the first months or so of the CW interestingly.

Only the first phase of Darktroopers could really be called close range combatants, weilding a blast shield and vibroblade. Phase Two lost these and carried an advanced form of light repeater blasters and an Imperial Assault Cannon (Rocket Launcher/Blaster Cannon) as well as a deflector shield. In all only Phase One Darktroopers could be called a hand-to-hand combat droid.

[NecronLord]

If you buy into the stuff about clones having better initiative, adaptability and creativity than droids, I suppose fielding what is effectively an amalgam of the two would be ideal.

If Rebellion/Supremacy is to be believed, some kind of force sensatives were going to be using the Dark Trooper armour...

[Darth Fanboy]

At least Semi-Force sensitive stormtroopers in bulked up armor is somewhat more believable than A droid fighter built around the brain of a fallen Imperial fighter ace and "infused with the Dark Side". (Shadow Droids)

[Pelranius]

The Remnant apparently used Dwarf Spider Droids to man checkpoints long after Endor, if that quote from the NEGtD is correct. But those seemed to be more stationed in the Rim, which was less politically important to the Empire.

[Warsie]

World of difference there, civies won't know who's flying a TIE anyhow.

Okay.

Only the first phase of Darktroopers could really be called close range combatants, weilding a blast shield and vibroblade. Phase Two lost these and carried an advanced form of light repeater blasters and an Imperial Assault Cannon (Rocket Launcher/Blaster Cannon) as well as a deflector shield. In all only Phase One Darktroopers could be called a hand-to-hand combat droid.

Okay, thank you.

[nightmare]

Having achieved his objective of building a New Order in reaction to the threats posed by the Clone Wars, Sidious liquidated his allies. Darth Vader arrived on Mustafar and slaughtered the Separatist Council. He then ordered a command signal that shut down the battle droid military. The huge commerce entities that made up the Confederacy became the spoils of war, as the newfound Empire nationalized them and absorbed them into its growing war machine.

Didn't we know this already?

[Cykeisme]

If you buy into the stuff about clones having better initiative, adaptability and creativity than droids, I suppose fielding what is effectively an amalgam of the two would be ideal.

If Rebellion/Supremacy is to be believed, some kind of force sensatives were going to be using the Dark Trooper armour...

In a fascinating continuity hiccup (rather, the later use of the name was ignorant of the first) Dark Troopers and Darktroopers may be two entirely different projects.
I may be wrong about this.

If I'm mistaken and they are the same, then I would surmise that even baseline Force sensitive troops (say, some measure of combat precognition) equipped with repulsorlift-equipped, heavily armored and armed powered armor would probably be expensive and rare, but veeery effective combat units.

[Warsie]

Didn't we know this already?

No, at least not the shutdown. The Movie says that Anakin ordered the CIS commanders to shut down their droids and to surrender.

And there were numerous holdout worlds, probably very few surrendered, being suspicious of the transmission. Even if they did shutdown, before the Empire could even GET to the droids, Separatist forces, militias and pirates got to them first

[VT-16]

Isn't there a passage in Dark Lord that mentions how CIS material is being usurped by all kinds or military forces without the Empire being able to stop them?

[Warsie]

Isn't there a passage in Dark Lord that mentions how CIS material is being usurped by all kinds or military forces without the Empire being able to stop them?

Yes, that's a main canon reason I mentioned it

[Tychu]

In Survivors Quest Luke and Mara know what Droidekas are. They faced them twice, although they werent used by Imperial forces, the knowledge of droidekas is some evidence that people knew what they were 40 years after the "end" of the Clone Wars, so somebody well known has to have had them on "display"

[ColonialAdmiral]

Also Survivors Quest mentioned that they are used on frontier worlds, as perimeter guards from preadeators and indiginous locals. You would think though, that the Droidekas would be in semi serviceable state, so they might still be built somewhere. There has to be a few Nemoidians lurking around somewhere, but that's pure speculation of course.

[Cykeisme]

No, at least not the shutdown. The Movie says that Anakin ordered the CIS commanders to shut down their droids and to surrender.

Hang on. Where does it say this?

It's a master shutdown signal that does not require the intervention of a chain of command involving living commanders.

[Lord_Xerxes]

Also in Outbound Flight, apparently the Republic commissioned some Droidekas to serve as protection against intruders to the ships and later, colony guards.

I thought it was kind of odd, considering that this was after TPM, but before AoTC.

[Chris OFarrell]

Also in Outbound Flight, apparently the Republic commissioned some Droidekas to serve as protection against intruders to the ships and later, colony guards.

I thought it was kind of odd, considering that this was after TPM, but before AoTC.

THey comment that it was precisely because it was between this time period that it happened. Mara comments that apparently the TF played 'goody goody' for more then a few years between their "takedown" at Naboo and the kickoff of the Clone Wars at Geonisis.