SW world constructing tech

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2003-01-29 10:03pm

Are the OR/EMP/NR technologically advanced enough to construct a Ringworld or a Dyson Sphere?

Sektor31 · Post by **Sektor31** » 2003-01-29 10:05pm

If they can construct an entirely new working Death Star in <20 years, then sure!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-29 10:10pm

Most likely yes, but they woudn't approve of such a waste of resources.

Sektor: More like less than 5 years, maybe even one.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-01-29 10:16pm

Th Empire can make 60% of the DSII in 6 months, I'm pretty sure that was the figure.

What does that tell us? They can make one tenth of an ARTIFICIAL MOON per month.

So yeah, I think its possible.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-01-29 10:33pm

There's no reason to: hypermatter reactors vastly outproduce all-enclosing Dyson Spheres in terms of power generation.

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2003-01-29 11:06pm

I was interested not in absorbing the radiant output of a star, but of habitation: with the Empire/Empire Remnant and Yuuzan Vong attacking and destroying worlds, living space is getting rarer and rarer... you can't just keep packing more and more surviving refugees on existing worlds, or just terraform/ build dome cities.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-29 11:07pm

And building an easily destroyable space habitat is the answer?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-01-29 11:08pm

Enola Straight wrote:I was interested not in absorbing the radiant output of a star, but of habitation: with the Empire/Empire Remnant and Yuuzan Vong attacking and destroying worlds, living space is getting rarer and rarer... you can't just keep packing more and more surviving refugees on existing worlds, or just terraform/ build dome cities.

Why not build metal cityscape on barren worlds, why a Dyson Sphere?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-01-29 11:10pm

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no. We've never seen the capability.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-01-30 01:45am

In "Rogue Planet" there existed engines and hyperdrive systems of such a scale (They were purchased, civilian-made, and the purchase of such in no way raised suspicions or questions.)

Furthermore, we know from "The Crystal Star" that there existed "world-crafts" - planet sized artificial constructs. Hethrir had one. It could move. It could travel through hyperspace.

I think its possible to build living facilities like a Dyson sphere or a ringworld, but practically speaking, they don't need to do it in the needlessly complex way that the others are.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-01-30 01:47am

Howedar wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no. We've never seen the capability.

What about Kuat Drive Yards?

generator_g1 · Post by **generator_g1** » 2003-01-30 01:59am

Darth Servo wrote:
Howedar wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no. We've never seen the capability.
What about Kuat Drive Yards?

The KDY is primarily a shipyard, if you would use it to build "space colonies", there has to be massive reorganization of people and resources, which wouldn't help the NR since these resources are badly needed elsewhere...

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-01-30 02:01am

Anyone have anything on the size of Ithorian Herd-ships? I know they're sustainable biospheres, but I'm not sure how big they are.

generator_g1 · Post by **generator_g1** » 2003-01-30 02:04am

The Dark wrote:Anyone have anything on the size of Ithorian Herd-ships? I know they're sustainable biospheres, but I'm not sure how big they are.

As big as Cloud City

FX · Post by FX » 2003-01-30 01:37pm

I don't think the scale of building a ring world or Dyson's sphere is outside the abilities of Star Wars, but the material science might be. A ring world assumes it gets its gravity from spinning, that requires a base material with a tensile strength greater than nuclear bonding energy. If artificial gravity is used instead the strength needed will go down greatly.

The problem of doing this to hold refugees from the Vong is that they would see this as a major heresy, and attack it as soon as possible. The NR know that this, so they will never build it.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-01-30 07:36pm

Darth Servo wrote:
Howedar wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no. We've never seen the capability.
What about Kuat Drive Yards?

What about it?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-01-30 07:42pm

Darth Servo wrote:
Howedar wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no. We've never seen the capability.
What about Kuat Drive Yards?

That's a brain-bug. The shipyards stretch throughout the system, and some people took that to mean for some bizarre reason it physically surrounded the system, y'know, with planets orbiting inside (I know it is stupid).

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-02-01 05:52pm

Cresih Station from The Crystal star was a pretty large inhabited station.

THe thing is, in the SW galaxy they don't need to build so many space colonies when colonization is still an option (note uninhabited planets and moons are for sale in the SW galaxy) , floating cities have been constructed (Ithor), planets such as Coruscant hold Trillions of people, and I believe terraformation is a posibility if i'm not mistaken. The Old Republic had done it multiple times IIRC.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-02-01 08:54pm

There's a BIG step between Coruscant (impressive in its own right) and a structure as big as or bigger than a Ringworld (many many orders of magnitude larger, as well as harder to construct).

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-02-01 10:59pm

I know its a big step, I brought up Coruscant as an example of why SW civilizations don't NEED space colonies. Not as evidence that they can build them.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-02-01 11:01pm

Enola Straight wrote:Are the OR/EMP/NR technologically advanced enough to construct a Ringworld or a Dyson Sphere?

There is a very large difference bewteen a world, and a Dyson Sphere.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-02-02 12:41am

Darth Fanboy wrote:I know its a big step, I brought up Coruscant as an example of why SW civilizations don't NEED space colonies. Not as evidence that they can build them.

Fair enough.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-02-02 12:56am

They most likely have the resources to do so and the infrastructure capable of moving those resources, but the materials science may be out of their reach for a ringworld or Dyson sphere. A Dyson cloud, on the other hand, should be well within their capabilities, should they chose to expend the resources to build it.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-02-02 01:11am

IIRC, nothing known is strong enough to build a ring world or dyson sphere. Not even Neutronium.

There's no point in building one as a habitat. We know they can move and tearaform planets, and the galaxy has billions of them. Converting those would make more sense. Remember that most of the planets we've seen destroyed had all there people lost as well. So there's not really a shortage of space.

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