most powerful force feats?

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-04-06 12:37am

What was the most devastating/miraculous thing ever done by a jedi, or group of jedi, Vader said that the power to destroy a planet is insigificant next to the force, yet we've never seen a jedi destroy a planet purely with force, (ie- using a force storm, or shooting a beam from his hand at it) Was the most powerful Jedi ever Exar Kun/Naga Sadow perhaps?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-04-06 12:43am

1. Anakin, Yoda, and perhaps Luke Skywalker are all more powerful than Naga Sadow.

2. The Force-storm that destroyed the Executor was a hugely powerful one.

3. Vader's "ability to destroy a planet" quote most likely referred to his philosophical belief that the Force could allow its wielders to control the Galaxy, as he was doing at the time.

4. The other candidate for the most powerful Force-technique ever observed was the Jedi Academy trilogy's movement of an entire fleet of Star Destroyers over the distance of several light-years in just seconds. True, this was not a repeatable event, but it still demonstrated unimaginable power.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-04-06 12:44am

I read something about the Sith Lords of old at some point being able to destroy stars with their Force power; then again, this may be another KJA kleenex-leaving.

Kintaro · Post by **Kintaro** » 2003-04-06 12:48am

Ossus, wasn't the Eclipse destroyed by a force storm? The Executor was destroyer when it collided with DS2.

Maybe we'll see some powerful force acts in Ep. 3.

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-04-06 12:55am

Master of Ossus wrote:1. Anakin, Yoda, and perhaps Luke Skywalker are all more powerful than Naga Sadow.

2. The Force-storm that destroyed the Executor was a hugely powerful one.

3. Vader's "ability to destroy a planet" quote most likely referred to his philosophical belief that the Force could allow its wielders to control the Galaxy, as he was doing at the time.

4. The other candidate for the most powerful Force-technique ever observed was the Jedi Academy trilogy's movement of an entire fleet of Star Destroyers over the distance of several light-years in just seconds. True, this was not a repeatable event, but it still demonstrated unimaginable power.

Didn't they also need a force focusing pyramid, and some of them croaked after it? that's not that powerful, an 120 light years hyperdrive gets you 2 light years in 2 minutes, and it IS repeatable, and there are faster hyperdrives.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-04-06 12:57am

Palp also using Ressurection abilities is pretty high.

Avoiding death is not physically powerful but speaks volumes of what that means for the person.

That and yes Kintaro found a small oops in Ossus' comment...that and it swallowed numerous ships before such and he did it quickly.

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-04-06 12:57am

Durran Korr wrote:I read something about the Sith Lords of old at some point being able to destroy stars with their Force power; then again, this may be another KJA kleenex-leaving.

I thought Naga Sadow destroyed stars with the force, is it easier or harder to destroy an earth sized terrestrial planet than a star?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-04-06 01:02am

Kintaro wrote:Ossus, wasn't the Eclipse destroyed by a force storm? The Executor was destroyer when it collided with DS2.

Maybe we'll see some powerful force acts in Ep. 3.

D'OH! Yes, I was referring to the Eclipse. Sorry, everyone.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-04-06 01:03am

Master of Ossus wrote:2. The Force-storm that destroyed the Executor was a hugely powerful one.

Eclipse.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-04-06 01:04am

Shrykull wrote: Didn't they also need a force focusing pyramid, and some of them croaked after it? that's not that powerful, an 120 light years hyperdrive gets you 2 light years in 2 minutes, and it IS repeatable, and there are faster hyperdrives.

They did need a Force-focusing pyramid, and one of them was killed in the effort (so it's not repeatable), but that's the thing. The Force-shove pushed those ISD's so far that they could NOT return to Yavin IV for a substantial period of time--so long that their attack plan would have been invalidated. Since even slow hyperdrives can easily travel hundreds of light years, they must have been shoved for a substantial distance in a hurry, or seriously damaged in the attempt. Either or both of these would have required substantial amounts of energy.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-04-06 01:11am

They were hurled superluminally.

Because of this, and other bits, Valiento corresponded with KJA, who said that the trick the students pulled is a variation/related to Palpatine's Force Storm ability.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-04-06 06:01am

Master of Ossus wrote:1. Anakin, Yoda, and perhaps Luke Skywalker are all more powerful than Naga Sadow.

How is that so? Given that Naga Sadow has actually destroyed stars while they have not.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-04-06 11:23am

His Divine Shadow wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:1. Anakin, Yoda, and perhaps Luke Skywalker are all more powerful than Naga Sadow.
How is that so? Given that Naga Sadow has actually destroyed stars while they have not.

Anakin is openly lauded as the most powerful Force sensitive ever. Anakin himself believes his son has even greater potential.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-04-06 11:28am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Anakin is openly lauded as the most powerful Force sensitive ever. Anakin himself believes his son has even greater potential.

I dunno if that really means anything, it seems subjective compared to witnessing of actual accomplishments, just like how God is openly lauded to be omnipotent yet can't defeat bronze age soldiers because they have iron chariots.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-04-06 11:31am

Don't forget his little amulet thing helped.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-04-06 11:32am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Don't forget his little amulet thing helped.

It's a wildcard yes, but I believe it was not a power amulet, but a mental focusing amulet.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-04-06 11:53am

His Divine Shadow wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Don't forget his little amulet thing helped.
It's a wildcard yes, but I believe it was not a power amulet, but a mental focusing amulet.

That's an assumption you're using that your assertion (blowing up the star is a direct application of his power alone) depends on.

Furthermore, the star destruction shown in the beginning of the KoToR w/ Kun and such showed two stars slamming together. This is so impossible it must be an exaggerated history recorded in the Holocron.

Furthermore, the device in Sadow's ship was able to be triggered by Aleema Keto, who was comparitively weak, to destroy the Cron cluster.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-04-06 02:17pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:That's an assumption you're using that your assertion (blowing up the star is a direct application of his power alone) depends on

Actually I believe there are two kinds of "power", the raw power of people like Anakin, Yoda and Luke, and the great abilities of people like Naga Sadow and Dooku and also Yoda in this category.
I believe the amulet enhanced ones focus and ability to wield the force.

Furthermore, the star destruction shown in the beginning of the KoToR w/ Kun and such showed two stars slamming together. This is so impossible it must be an exaggerated history recorded in the Holocron

I'd say no, the Jedi already violate stuff like conservation of momentum and such, so I say, don't knock it if you got it, and we got it.
And you say this is in the beginning of KoToR? The game? Do you like have some preview or something?