Let's play with numbers

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-04-09 08:26pm

All this relies on the HTL of an Imperator or SSD being exactly the same firepower as the smaller MTL's of the Acclamator, when they are closer to 125 times as large. Assuming the difference in size and firepower are roughly equal(Just cause, yanno, I have a intrinsic need to be EVIL), we get thus:

One Barrel: 25 Teratons(25TT)

ISD-II, 64 HTL's(Assuming it's in a position where it can fire all it's guns. There's actually a few ones where it can, though most have it inverted).

Alpha Strike: 1,600 TT

1 Minute: 9,600 TT

10 Minutes: 96,000 TT(96 Petatons, or PT)

1 Hour: 576 PT

12 Hour: 6,912 PT(6.9 Exatons)

Quite terrifying.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-04-09 08:47pm

There were meant to be low end.

Wee, 25 TT guns, let's do the SSD, even with WEG guns

ALPHA STRIKE
50 thousand teratons(BDZx2)

1 MINUTE FIRING
300,000 teratons

10 MINUTES
3,000,000 teratons!

1 HOUR
18,000,000 teratons!!!

12 HOURS
216,000,000 teratons

24 hours
432,000,000 teratons!

Very frightning!

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-04-09 08:50pm

Acclamator BDZ time (assuming 1000 missles)
<50 minutes

ISD BDZ time
3 minutes (this is less then x20 a Acclamator, so it fits)

SSD BDZ time
half its guns!

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-04-09 09:47pm

SirNitram wrote:All this relies on the HTL of an Imperator or SSD being exactly the same firepower as the smaller MTL's of the Acclamator, when they are closer to 125 times as large.

Did you even read?

This is low-end. GAT plotted the Acclamator, based on ICS values, could execute BDZ in ten hours. And ISD must in at most, one hour.

We're also working on Canon SD weapons. Thus: 64 HTL barrels for and ISD II, 32 barrels for the ISD I. The WEG 60 TL weapons simply don't exist on the ISD model.

Thus, we rounded the Alpha Strikes up by an order of magnitude for the ISD I, and divided by the number of Canon HTL barrels. Thus, ISD I barrel = 9.6 TT.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-04-10 01:35am

Enforcer Talen wrote:course they could.

it would just be a *big* battle.

Or a slaughter

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-04-10 07:49am

NOTE: The speed it takes to move around the planet. I haven't done any calcs for how long that would take of course.

The other number of ships used in a BDZ may not be for bombarding, but for jamming, intercepting, etc.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-04-10 12:29pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote: We're also working on Canon SD weapons. Thus: 64 HTL barrels for and ISD II, 32 barrels for the ISD I. The WEG 60 TL weapons simply don't exist on the ISD model.

Canon for ISD1 is 12 HTLs, not 32.

And GAT the refire rate for TLs in EGWT is once every other second, not once every 10. You are a bit off.

Executor · Post by **Executor** » 2003-04-10 12:46pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:PPOR.

Saxton's seen more of the SSD's photographs to my knowledge than you've demonstrated. I'm inclined to believe him.

Ive had several discussion with Curtis about weapons on the Executor, i started a project on counting visible guns, ill post first results later. I have taken nearly 600 pictures of the Executor both at London and Edinburgh exhibitions, these i have sent to Curtis, as well as recieved all of the pictures he has of the Executor

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-04-10 01:34pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
SirNitram wrote:All this relies on the HTL of an Imperator or SSD being exactly the same firepower as the smaller MTL's of the Acclamator, when they are closer to 125 times as large.
Did you even read?

Do you? I specifically stated I was doing higher numbers just to be evil.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-04-10 01:37pm

GAT: I don't dislike WEG's numbers for the SSD that much. Remember: This huge thing got defeated by a handful of converted freighters, so it's doubtful it's a purpose-built battleship. It's probably more likely a carrier, with that huge hangar space.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-10 03:09pm

SirNitram wrote:GAT: I don't dislike WEG's numbers for the SSD that much. Remember: This huge thing got defeated by a handful of converted freighters, so it's doubtful it's a purpose-built battleship. It's probably more likely a carrier, with that huge hangar space.

Marina has considered the SSD a battlecruiser before. In addition, even the 8-km "version" was said to only have 144 fighters, which wasn't very much. That said, those converted freighters were fairly well armed and quite heavily shielded.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-04-10 04:38pm

phongn wrote:
SirNitram wrote:GAT: I don't dislike WEG's numbers for the SSD that much. Remember: This huge thing got defeated by a handful of converted freighters, so it's doubtful it's a purpose-built battleship. It's probably more likely a carrier, with that huge hangar space.
Marina has considered the SSD a battlecruiser before. In addition, even the 8-km "version" was said to only have 144 fighters, which wasn't very much. That said, those converted freighters were fairly well armed and quite heavily shielded.

Indeed they were, but the volume of return fire seemed, if anything, inferior to the amount spouted forth by the ISD's. As for the hangar space of the 17Km SSD, we know you could tuck an ISD up there without much trouble. I still hold it as a Command Ship/Carrier for these reasons. A Battlecruiser is more like the Allegiance Class.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-04-10 05:36pm

Nitram is a SOB

If the Hoth shield can take 1 minute bombardment from 5 ISDs and a SSD...

Death Squadron

ALPHA STRIKE
58 petatons fired at shield

1 MINUTE
348 petatons

2 MINUTE
696 petatons

5 MINUTE
1.74 exatons

10 MINUTES
3.48 exatons

If the Hoth Shield could survive 10 minutes of bombardment, it must be able to take over 3 million teratons!

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-04-10 06:25pm

I don't like all those zeros. Use proper notation(Petatons, Exatons..). Or I will kill a small puppy.