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Borg Implant?

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I was reading HTTE earlier, and somewhere in the first half (I think just after everyone arrives on Nkillon), there is a reference to someone having a borg implant.

Is Borg just a Trek thing, or is it a common word?
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Gandalf wrote:I was reading HTTE earlier, and somewhere in the first half (I think just after everyone arrives on Nkillon), there is a reference to someone having a borg implant.

Is Borg just a Trek thing, or is it a common word?
Borg is short for Cyborg.
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Lobot IIRC, Lando's assistant from his administration on Cloud City is the borg in question. The Implant was an intervace grafted to his brain to link him to computers and droids to speed up efficancy. In the Black Fleet Crisis, if you can stomach that, gives more details on Lobot's Borg Implants.
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Lord Pounder wrote:Lobot IIRC, Lando's assistant from his administration on Cloud City is the borg in question. The Implant was an intervace grafted to his brain to link him to computers and droids to speed up efficancy. In the Black Fleet Crisis, if you can stomach that, gives more details on Lobot's Borg Implants.
Actually, not in this case. Lobot was administering Cloud City at this time. In fact, up until the Black Fleet Crisis, he never left. Lando had another borg-implanted human working for him on Nkllon as the chief programmer.
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Thanks for the help all. So if I understand correctly, Borg is just short for cyborg? Odd.
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Gandalf wrote:Thanks for the help all. So if I understand correctly, Borg is just short for cyborg? Odd.
They lie! They know Borg is REALLY the swedish winner of 5 consecutive Wimbledon! :p

Yeah, borg is just a shortening of cyborg, which itself is just a shortening of cybernetic organism, refering to any living creature with some cybernetic implants or the like.

Wikipedia's entry for 'Cyborg'
Detailed entry from Encyclopedia Brittanica for 'Cybernetics' Available in full only if you have Premium Service. If you want the full article I can post it.

From Merriam-Webster Online (M-W.com)
Cybernetics [noun plural but singular in construction] : the science of
communication and control theory that is concerned especially with the
comparative study of automatic control systems (as the nervous system
and brain and mechanical-electrical communication systems)
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cybernetics

<robotics> /si:`b*-net'iks/ The study of control and communication in living
and man-made systems.

The term was first proposed by Norbert Wiener in the book referenced
below. Originally, cybernetics drew upon electrical engineering,
mathematics, biology, neurophysiology, anthropology, and psychology to
study and describe actions, feedback, and response in systems of all kinds.
It aims to understand the similarities and differences in internal workings of
organic and machine processes and, by formulating abstract concepts
common to all systems, to understand their behaviour.

Modern "second-order cybernetics" places emphasis on how the process of
constructing models of the systems is influenced by those very systems,
hence an elegant definition - "applied epistemology".

Related recent developments (often referred to as sciences of complexity)
that are distinguished as separate disciplines are artificial intelligence,
neural networks, systems theory, and chaos theory, but the boundaries
between those and cybernetics proper are not precise.

["Cybernetics, or control and communication in the animal and the
machine", N. Wiener, New York: John Wiley & Sons, Inc., 1948]
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Gandalf wrote:I was reading HTTE earlier, and somewhere in the first half (I think just after everyone arrives on Nkillon), there is a reference to someone having a borg implant.

Is Borg just a Trek thing, or is it a common word?
Borg as a species name is a trek thing. But really it's just a shortening of cyborg. Given when Zahn wrote the Thrawn Trilogy the borg hadn't become the catch all villians they would later become so it's far more likely it's the latter than the former.
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Lord Pounder wrote:Lobot IIRC, Lando's assistant from his administration on Cloud City is the borg in question. The Implant was an intervace grafted to his brain to link him to computers and droids to speed up efficancy. In the Black Fleet Crisis, if you can stomach that, gives more details on Lobot's Borg Implants.
Could you tell some more details on Lobot ?
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