Should there be Time-Travel in Star Wars?

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2003-12-30 07:23pm

Luzifer's right hand wrote:And they used Time Travel , I did not really like the Time Travel issues in the "Meister der Insel" cycle, why did they to repeat this stuff?

The terrans didn't used timetravel, the Eltans used it... and failed ( they didn't managed to change the past ).

Luzifer's right hand · Post by **Luzifer's right hand** » 2003-12-30 07:41pm

I mean the authors.

The Terrans used the Time-Travel device in the "Meister der Insel" cycle by accident, they did not plan to use it.
I had a Deja Vu when I read "Tradom" many things are similar.
I don't plan to read the next cycle

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » 2003-12-30 09:41pm

In the name of all that's holy, NO!!!!! Time travel sucks ass! I can only think of one popular sci-fi franchise that did it right. That was B5, and it worked there mainly because they did it ONCE.

But if Star Wars does it, its a sure sign of the Apocalypse.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-12-30 11:12pm

Howedar wrote:No. And so help me God, if you post one more thread in this forum in the next few hours I'm going to gut you like a fish.

*hands Howedar a knife*

What he said. If anyone brings time travel to the Star Wars universe, expect me to stop caring about it.

Super-Gagme · Post by **Super-Gagme** » 2003-12-31 01:00am

Actually I think Stargate: SG-1 has used Time Travel in their stories very effectively. Anyone disagree? And I agree with Aleskya that some kind of Force related time travel might be interesting. Perhaps some old device on a planet that sticks them in a time loop or something interesting for a short story. Also I think that Farscape managed time travel pretty well. *shrugs*

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-12-31 03:29am

Robert Treder wrote:First of all, no, SW shouldn't have time travel feature as a plot device. Time Travel is only cool when it's the main show, e.g. Terminator, Back to the Future, et cetera. When it's used just as a plot device in an otherwise normal sci-fi series, it's shitsville (see "Star Trek").

Second of all, Star Wars has had time travel. In one article of HolonetNews, a man was found who entered hyperspace hundreds of years earlier, but due to a mechanical malfunction, exited hyperspace in the prequel era, the same age as when he left.
As Saxton details, time-manipulating technologies are necessary for hyperspace to work as we know it.

Which Holonetnews was this?

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-12-31 04:00am

Xenophobe3691 wrote:
Robert Treder wrote:Second of all, Star Wars has had time travel. In one article of HolonetNews, a man was found who entered hyperspace hundreds of years earlier, but due to a mechanical malfunction, exited hyperspace in the prequel era, the same age as when he left.
As Saxton details, time-manipulating technologies are necessary for hyperspace to work as we know it.
Which Holonetnews was this?

This one.

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2003-12-31 07:46am

Luzifer's right hand wrote:I mean the authors.

The Terrans used the Time-Travel device in the "Meister der Insel" cycle by accident, they did not plan to use it.
I had a Deja Vu when I read "Tradom" many things are similar.
I don't plan to read the next cycle

The second half of the Tradom cycle was pretty strange/bad... the new cycle is better I think.

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2003-12-31 09:19am

Robert Treder wrote:Second of all, Star Wars has had time travel. In one article of HolonetNews, a man was found who entered hyperspace hundreds of years earlier, but due to a mechanical malfunction, exited hyperspace in the prequel era, the same age as when he left.
As Saxton details, time-manipulating technologies are necessary for hyperspace to work as we know it.

*phew*

That's the only good form of time travel. I remember now I've seen this ages ago but didn't make the connection. Check out the Terms Of Use.. it looks official enough to me.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-12-31 11:05am

Howedar wrote:No. And so help me God, if you post one more thread in this forum in the next few hours I'm going to gut you like a fish.

Glad to help.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-12-31 01:30pm

Robert Treder wrote:
Xenophobe3691 wrote: Which Holonetnews was this?
This one.

Thanks a lot, that's actually pretty sad, I'd miss my family.

Oh, and sorry to ask yet another question, where does Saxton mention time manipulation?

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2003-12-31 04:17pm

What would be the point of using it. Jedi and Sith can already see into the future and we already know the past. I would say the usage of time travel would be for when Star Wars dwindles down to a state where they run out of ideas and creativity or in other words become more like Star Trek, which hopefully will never happen. Not to mention it is just a stupid idea, as said in a previous post, see Star Trek.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-12-31 05:11pm

Xenophobe3691 wrote:Oh, and sorry to ask yet another question, where does Saxton mention time manipulation?

No problem. It's right here.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-12-31 06:23pm

Here, I'll give the juicy bits, for those of you who don't bother clicking links:

Dr. Saxton wrote:If the distance covered is x then the limiting high-speed travel time experienced by the travellers is x/c. In particular for a journey of hundreds of light years the natural ship-time would be hundreds of years, even if only a split second elapses in the galaxy at rest.

This is a problem. Lord Vader obviously does not die of old age while journeying from Coruscant to Vjun, and nor does he travel so slowly that centuries pass in the Empire. Clearly the hyperdrive technology must solve not only the secret of jumping over the light barrier but must also alter shipboard time. The mechanism of this time retardation may be related to to gravitic technologies like the routine generation of artificial gravity, or it might be related to the jump wake rotation effect.

The introduction of a technology for generating a locally-acting time-retardation field appears to be at least as necessary as the use of inertial dampers to avoid crushing a ship's contents during jumps.

I just realized that if a hack writer figured this out, they might have characters wearing time-retardation belts, so that they can kick ass à la Prince of Persia. So don't tell KJA about any of this.