Hell Froze Over! SW 7,8,9 A possibility! (Rumor)

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-01-16 08:47pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:I guess we need to hold another book burning session; bring out your EU!

Just the KJA books.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2004-01-16 08:48pm

Found the ultimate refutation to this rumour accredited to Mayhew, on TFN

Peter Mahyew denies the original report on his official website where says the following according to a news tip from M. Kryger:

Hi, Well, that's very interesting, but no, it's not true about Ep's 7, 8 and 9....don't know where the guy got that one...but yes, I'll be in Ep III for sure.....thanks for the email... and Cheers, Peter

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-16 09:29pm

If there were going to be a 7, 8, and 9, what would the films be about. Would they start with The Truce at Bakura and so forth? I would like to see Dark Empire I&II or mabye the Thrawn Trilogy.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-17 12:24am

a revamped version of the Dark Empire trilogy would be the only post-ROTJ EU of the scope necessary for a sequel trilogy of movies. They could keep the general series of events and plot, but would be executed in a far better and cleaner fashion.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-01-17 02:11am

I don't know. I think the Thrawn Trilogy could and should be adapted if anything.

The problem with Dark Empire is that it undoes everything of symbolic significance to the OT.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-01-17 02:12am

Chardok wrote:at any rate, He HAS forbidden novelizations some from writing about events immediately following episode 6, or so I hear, so mayhaps at least he's leaving his options open. and hell, with makeup and good CG (ie. NOT ILM, perhaps WETA?) Mark Hamill-20 pounds could even reprise his role as Puke Guystalker!

*FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP*

Truce at Bakura starts with Luke flying up from Endor after the party and the X-wing books range the whole way through to the fall of coruscant. I think he only forbid the "prequel" area.

Equinox2003 · Post by **Equinox2003** » 2004-01-19 03:29am

So Chewie himself has denied it. Kind of sad....Speculating about the
possible new movies was fun.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2004-01-19 04:43am

First of all, Lucas isn't going to make those. He's too old. He's tired from Star Wars.
His PT is not as half as good as his OT. Rumors remain rumors - until we see the movie in production with cast, director (not GL), etc. it's not really worth believing.

But. It would be cool to see Ep. VII, VIII, XI. Why? Because the EU (except the hailed and glorified Thrawn Trilogy) is so lame, unbelievable! The ever-self-repeating crap about invulnerable jedi-wannbe superheroes defeating self-proclaimed Sith-wannabes and other idiotic villains which make the Empire look sick. Really awful - after brilliant characters as Vader, Palpatine, Piett, Veers, Thrawn, Pellaeon... Then the Vong stuff which is basically something of a mix between refuting of OT ideas and Babylon 5 - rip-off....
Gush, if George would destroy the EU with three next movies, I'll be grateful. I'll only keep the Thrawn Trilogy as a very good "AU" thingie. Or, if a screenply on Thrawn Trilogy was made, that'd be also great.

Now, there is a possibility Star Wars on screen will live after George. His son? Daughter? Someone else? Foxie guys take SW rights? Lucasfilm folk? Oh, whoever..

I will be pleased to see Star Wars sequels (yes I don't like the prequels). But only if they live up to OT. And are NOT lame EU-self-repeating.

And please - in the sequels - deny the existance of Jacen, Jaina, Anakin. These uber-powerful kiddo-jedi-wannbes make any normal person sick. The Young Jedi Knights books are a serious threat to one's mental health. I already hated Star Wars prequels when Anakin Skywalker destroyer the TF Command Ship being nine years old. Please no more kiddie stuff...

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-19 12:06pm

Blah blah blah, purist stuff.

I had an outline for what I thought would be a kickass Episodes VII, VIII, and IX.

Post-NJO, and keeping the EU intact.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2004-01-19 12:37pm

Illuminatus Primus,
well keep it intact. Just get rid of KJA

Actually a really good set of sequels - yes, after NJO, something like 30 years after ROTJ (that would give the necessary starting distance, as TPM was 30 yrs from ANH) and then go with close Episodes. Maybe a sideflip (the Rebels are now baddies, the Imperials turned goodies) would do

Why not? The Republic evolved into the Empire - oh we know revolutions spawn tyrannies (1917), so the Rebels could also evolve into a tyranny... and then... who knows?

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-01-19 01:05pm

I would personally like to see sequels done using the same filming techniques as the OT, then perhaps cleaned up by CG (The boxes around ships, eg.) is it me, or did the OT just have a sort of grittier, more realistic, substantive feel to them? (Even the SE with the omission, of course, of greedo shooting first [damn you.]) The PT just feels kinda faky

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2004-01-19 01:18pm

Chardok,
yes exactly, something OT-style

I suggest that "faky" feeling comes from faky war. While the CGW in OT was real, bloody war, where real Rebels and Imperials, both humans, died, people sacrificed their lives in that war, etc.
In the PT, the "computerish" war is just... dead. Clones (which are mentally restricted biomechanisms) fight droids (mechanisms). Not sorry for anyone. Federation uses droid fighters. And even the gungan-battledroid war in Ep.1 feels kinda faky - the droids are not alive, and the Gungans - as well. They are CG creations... and I never cared for gungans. In fact, I wanted them to die

Besides that, the PT has less space battles and nothing really huge in space (a locale conflict on Naboo never even close to Calactic Civil War! and the puny Jango-Obi shootout near Geonosis). Space battles are also essential to Star Wars! Hope George will make up for the lack of space warfare in his next movie

Even with the ewoks spoiling the OT a bit with teddy-bearism, still the war is much more real.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-19 01:25pm

Stas Bush wrote:Illuminatus Primus,
well keep it intact. Just get rid of KJA
Actually a really good set of sequels - yes, after NJO, something like 30 years after ROTJ (that would give the necessary starting distance, as TPM was 30 yrs from ANH) and then go with close Episodes. Maybe a sideflip (the Rebels are now baddies, the Imperials turned goodies) would do
Why not? The Republic evolved into the Empire - oh we know revolutions spawn tyrannies (1917), so the Rebels could also evolve into a tyranny... and then... who knows?

Rehashes are teh suck.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-19 05:20pm

I am ok with sequals as long as they are OT style and that the writers pick a good trilogy, one that they do not redo(unless the tilogy needs some upgrading).

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2004-01-19 05:23pm

Lucas has said he is interested in exploring tv series as well, and McCallum has hinted that the future of SW may be on the small screen--i think its very likely to see post-ROTJ as a television series, or perhaps a miniseries. It wouldnt suprise me if ended up being an CG series as well.

Lucas has no intention of preserving EU, and rightfully so.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-19 05:27pm

A TV series would be interesting. Not sure if it would be good as a full series sitcom thing but as a mini-series it might do well.

D.Turtle · Post by **D.Turtle** » 2004-01-19 06:09pm

I dont know if it was mentioned bafore, but just in case:

One big problem about tying in the EU and any possible series is to make sure that the movies are attractive (and understandable) to people who have only seen the movies but not read the books.

This would mean you have to be careful about introducing new characters etc.

For example if you take a setting 30 years in the future, most people will have no idea what has happened in between. So if you suddenly have the next generation of people in the story it would be quite hard to understand.

Just as bringing in Thrawn, the Vong, the reborn Emperor etc in would be quite difficult. You can't fit 30 years of history into a short entrance blurb.

My main question is this: How could you make sequels true to the EU but at the same time independent from the EU and understandable from a pure movies only perspective?

Note: This has nothing to do with purist BS or anything like that. It is a question that is (in my eyes) the main problem or difficulty in making any sequels to SW: Attractive and understandable to the SW fan and the movie-goer who has never even heard of the EU.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-19 06:21pm

You simply don't mention them.

You can introduce Mara without giving the detailed backstory, just like we didn't need to know how Obi-Wan became Qui-Gon's padawan during TPM.

The only thing you'd have to say is the Galactic Alliance and the New Republic defeated the Empire, and fought off alien invaders. And leave it at that. Maybe they'd have a cameo, but five years after TUF, they don't have to be everywhere.

Equinox2003 · Post by **Equinox2003** » 2004-01-21 03:21am

Knowing nothing about Star Wars other than the movies, I wonder,
are the highly regarded Thrawn books still in print? The only SW book I
ever read was the ANH novel. But it seems that every time the EU
comes up all who comment have the same opionion: Thrawn books
are the best by far. Seems like it might be worth looking into, would
I find these at my local book shop?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-01-21 03:31am

Amazon carries them. They shouldn't be hard to find.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-01-21 03:50am

Lucas has said he is interested in exploring tv series as well, and McCallum has hinted that the future of SW may be on the small screen--i think its very likely to see post-ROTJ as a television series, or perhaps a miniseries. It wouldnt suprise me if ended up being an CG series as well.

There are many characters and factions in the Star Wars universe. Which ones to focus on could be a difficult choice. Personaly I would like to see a series from the Imperial point of view. Maybe something like Band of Brothers depicting the difficult lives of an Imeprial stormtrooper company.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2004-01-21 04:25am

evilcat4000

Maybe something like Band of Brothers depicting the difficult lives of an Imeprial stormtrooper company

Have you watched "Troops" by Kevin Rubio?

It's so good even Lucas says it's his fav.

And in fact, such stuff is alredy slipping into Star Wars - see Clone Wars Episode 3 about "how troopers go" or in the comics - Star Wars Empire #14 (What Sin Loyalty) & Star Wars Empire #16-19 (To the Last Man).

I think previously an Imperial POV was not even allowed into Star Wars EU, given the fact that most EU books were just dull copies of Lucas' storyline, not even trying to alter it in some way (except the Thrawn trilogy, that is).
Now, with Clone Wars, Empire, Infinities, etc. seems that the Empire will at last get it's unsung heroes

Lt. Nebfer · Post by **Lt. Nebfer** » 2004-01-21 10:33pm

the only way he could do a SW7,8&9 with out the "old characters" is if he based it off of the X-wing series

of corce this is if he did it right after SW Ep 6