Hyperspace Tunneling Equipment

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-21 10:45pm

In the fanfiction Conquest, a hyperspace tunneling system was used to stabalize the wormhole: Is this equipment real in SW and can it be used to create a hyperspace tunnel/lane accross the galaxy?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-01-21 10:46pm

I've never heard of it, so I think that Mike just made it up.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-01-21 11:54pm

Well, the Gree Enclave did it, it could be that the Empire has been doing research into the gates, and the knowledge gained at that point allowed them to do so?

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2004-01-22 12:14am

The Gree used hyperspace gates. They were more or less a "jump gate" version of the hyperdrive or a more static form of the Aethersprite's hyperdrive ring - rather than using an engine inside the ship to propel a ship into hyperspace, a fixed "gate" propels the ship to hyperspace.

The most notable example of a "hyperspace tunnel" I suppose is with centerpoint station - where the station can reach out through hyperspace
and tractor objects to the station (or to set off supernovas, or as we saw in the Agents of Chaos duology, to unleash tremendous destructive power capable of vaporizing dozens or hundreds of starships.)

Palpatine could apparently create hyperspace wormholes through which he cvould project his Force storms as well... and there were odd technologies like Magwit's hoops (which reputedly allowed a person to travel through the hoops from one side to another, much like a Gree hypergate.)

FTeik · Post by **FTeik** » 2004-01-22 06:03am

Don´t remember if this is correct or not, but i remember to have read, that somewhere in an issue of Gamer or Insider a hyperspace-tunnel was used by the empire to bring the materials for the second DeathStar to Endor since the ships of Xixor´s XTS weren´t enough to do the job. Or they hired XTS because the transportation-abilities of the tunnel weren´t enough, i don´t know anymore.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2004-01-22 11:31am

Connor MacLeod wrote:The Gree used hyperspace gates. They were more or less a "jump gate" version of the hyperdrive or a more static form of the Aethersprite's hyperdrive ring - rather than using an engine inside the ship to propel a ship into hyperspace, a fixed "gate" propels the ship to hyperspace.

Wasn't this a ground device, more like the stargate rather than a jump gate?

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-22 05:07pm

With the Gree gate, whats would happen if you used a ship that already had a hyperdrive and it went through the gaet by hyperspace? Also, do you need another gate on the opposite side of the gate? And how fast would the gate propell you?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-22 05:11pm

A lot of those technologies were probably hyperspace as in multiple-dimensions, rather than the "universe as seen from the perspective of a tachyon" thing.

For example, the hyperdrive is necessary to send stuff into hyperspace as tachyons, and to bring them out again as tardyons. I don't see how the Centerpoint could do that with streams of energy. I think they meant a genuine wormhole through higher spaces rather than tachyonic perspectives.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-01-22 05:12pm

I don't know if it will answer your questions, but here:
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/hyperspace.html#gree

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-01-22 05:24pm

IP, concerning "tardyons:" I believe the correct term for subluminal massed particles is "bradyons."

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-01-22 07:25pm

One of the Star Wars Gamer mags (the one dealing with Endor) mentioned technology that allowed them to artificially create safe hyperlanes for rapid transit to move materials to and from the site easily.

Possibly this is the same stuff.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-01-22 07:27pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:
Connor MacLeod wrote:The Gree used hyperspace gates. They were more or less a "jump gate" version of the hyperdrive or a more static form of the Aethersprite's hyperdrive ring - rather than using an engine inside the ship to propel a ship into hyperspace, a fixed "gate" propels the ship to hyperspace.
Wasn't this a ground device, more like the stargate rather than a jump gate?

Yep.

What year did the gmae that mentioned the Gree hyperspace gates first come out? I wondeer if it was before or after Stargate.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-22 07:28pm

Maybe something that clears any significant junk, dust, meteors, and maybe clumps of dark matter particles?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-01-22 07:48pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Maybe something that clears any significant junk, dust, meteors, and maybe clumps of dark matter particles?

Sounds like that at least in part; it says it "was built by planting non-mass S-thread boosters in hyperspace and moving realspace detrius from a thousand locations to avoid catastrophic mass shadows. It required round-the-clock upkeep and cost billions of credits"

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-22 09:25pm

Does the Empire or any SW faction have the ability to build the hyper routes like previously mentioned?

FTeik · Post by **FTeik** » 2004-01-23 11:06am

Ender wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Maybe something that clears any significant junk, dust, meteors, and maybe clumps of dark matter particles?
Sounds like that at least in part; it says it "was built by planting non-mass S-thread boosters in hyperspace and moving realspace detrius from a thousand locations to avoid catastrophic mass shadows. It required round-the-clock upkeep and cost billions of credits"

Were they able to transport cargo-containers this way or had they still to use ships?

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2004-01-24 08:16am

Ender wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote:
Connor MacLeod wrote:The Gree used hyperspace gates. They were more or less a "jump gate" version of the hyperdrive or a more static form of the Aethersprite's hyperdrive ring - rather than using an engine inside the ship to propel a ship into hyperspace, a fixed "gate" propels the ship to hyperspace.
Wasn't this a ground device, more like the stargate rather than a jump gate?
Yep.

What year did the gmae that mentioned the Gree hyperspace gates first come out? I wondeer if it was before or after Stargate.

1995. Small logical jump to assume it was "inspired".

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-01-24 01:24pm

FTeik wrote:
Ender wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Maybe something that clears any significant junk, dust, meteors, and maybe clumps of dark matter particles?
Sounds like that at least in part; it says it "was built by planting non-mass S-thread boosters in hyperspace and moving realspace detrius from a thousand locations to avoid catastrophic mass shadows. It required round-the-clock upkeep and cost billions of credits"
Were they able to transport cargo-containers this way or had they still to use ships?

No, still needed ships, but now it was just one long straingt jump for them, thus much quicker

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-25 12:45am

Did/does the Empire have the technology to create hyperspace tunneling equipment that is in space just like the one in Conquest, able to: launch a ship into hyperspace with the ring stations, transport it like a stargate(only slower), or simply create a hyper-lane which you could travel by normal hyperdrive?

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2004-01-25 03:47am

Techno_Union wrote:Did/does the Empire have the technology to create hyperspace tunneling equipment that is in space just like the one in Conquest, able to: launch a ship into hyperspace with the ring stations, transport it like a stargate(only slower), or simply create a hyper-lane which you could travel by normal hyperdrive?

Not mentioned besides what has already been brought up in this thread. I see no reason why the Empire would want hypergates. They require two fixed points and highly trained specialists to do what a two-bit smuggler can do with a hyperdrive and a ship. Hyperlanes are just clear areas of space which allows safer travelling = higher speeds, and short astrogation time.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-25 03:50am

In Conquest it was just a natural wormhole stabilized by SW technobabble.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-25 03:35pm

nightmare wrote:
Techno_Union wrote:Did/does the Empire have the technology to create hyperspace tunneling equipment that is in space just like the one in Conquest, able to: launch a ship into hyperspace with the ring stations, transport it like a stargate(only slower), or simply create a hyper-lane which you could travel by normal hyperdrive?
Not mentioned besides what has already been brought up in this thread. I see no reason why the Empire would want hypergates. They require two fixed points and highly trained specialists to do what a two-bit smuggler can do with a hyperdrive and a ship. Hyperlanes are just clear areas of space which allows safer travelling = higher speeds, and short astrogation time.

The whole reason I am asking this is to find out if it were possible to have hypergates connecting two galaxies to create a safe way of traveling.

In Conquest it was just a natural wormhole stabilized by SW technobabble.

They mentioned Hyperspace Tunneling Equipment and this is where I had all these questions.

FTeik · Post by **FTeik** » 2004-01-25 05:09pm

Hypergates that transport objects through a higher-dimension (like a transition/Aii-Ting-monks/Iconian Stargates) could be used to cut travel-times (and with that costs), to move troops and equipment very quickly and it would make business very difficult for pirates and rebels, who try to raid your convoys.

Wasn´t the empire working on something like a transporter or such a hypergate in one of the Marvel-comics?