How would the Empire go down in SW history?

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2004-01-30 04:06pm

I agree about the part of the Jedi's destruction, but I think that the Empire as a government would be seen as insignificant in galactic history.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2004-01-30 04:23pm

Ending an era of several thousand years is worthy of more than a footnote.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-02-01 03:22am

Why would people see several decades of a coup as ending an era of several thousands of years, expecially since it is a thousand years after the Empire collapsed and the era continued? Both the Republic and Jedi have been restored. If they weren't restored, however, if they were forever destroyed, I could see it as being significant in history.

D.Turtle · Post by **D.Turtle** » 2004-02-01 08:07am

The Jedi Order was completely destroyed.

Something that has not happened in the 25000 preceding years.

That is worth a LOT more than a mere footnote.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2004-02-01 10:23am

Not to mention the sudden proliferation of planet busting weapons and the sudden militarization. Even though they might not be remembered much in normal history, military historians and military men will still remember the Empire for all the military stuff it has done.

Plus the rise and fall of Palpatine would be mentioned a lot of times as well.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2004-02-01 10:50am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Shinova wrote:I think it would be as well known as Nazi Germany is well known today.
Yes, but that was just 60 years ago, not 1000.

guardsman bass wrote:since the SW universe tends to be socially static

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2004-02-01 01:15pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Why would people see several decades of a coup as ending an era of several thousands of years, expecially since it is a thousand years after the Empire collapsed and the era continued? Both the Republic and Jedi have been restored. If they weren't restored, however, if they were forever destroyed, I could see it as being significant in history.

Well, the Chinese still remember Qin Shi Huang, the First Emperor of China. Granted, the Zhou Dynasty properly ended during the Warring States period when their ancestral lands were sacked, but Qin ShiHuang rule only lasted in his lifetime. IIRC, there were only 3 rulers. Himself, a cousin, then either his son or his nephew, before they surrendered.

The An Lushan rebellion(Tang), Heavenly Kingdom(Qing) and of course, LiangShan Bo (Song) are also remembered although they don't exactly fit what you're asking for. The first was a rebellion that installed a governor as effective ruler of the Tang before he was overthrown, the second created a province that was later wiped out and the last was essentially a band of bandits acting like Robin Hood and carved out a semi-domain for themselves.Of course, this could be the side-effect of countless wuxia novels/comics being written about the relative time periods.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-02-01 01:27pm

Like said before it matters who is writing the history book. It also matters who is the dominant faction in the Galaxy. If the Hapans for some reason controlld the SW Galaxy in 1,000 years, then they could very well forget about the Emprie. If it was sn Imperial Faction who some how took back the galaxy then they would view it as a great period in history. So it comes down to who is writing the book.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-02-01 01:38pm

PainRack wrote:Well, the Chinese still remember Qin Shi Huang, the First Emperor of China. Granted, the Zhou Dynasty properly ended during the Warring States period when their ancestral lands were sacked, but Qin ShiHuang rule only lasted in his lifetime. IIRC, there were only 3 rulers. Himself, a cousin, then either his son or his nephew, before they surrendered.

The An Lushan rebellion(Tang), Heavenly Kingdom(Qing) and of course, LiangShan Bo (Song) are also remembered although they don't exactly fit what you're asking for. The first was a rebellion that installed a governor as effective ruler of the Tang before he was overthrown, the second created a province that was later wiped out and the last was essentially a band of bandits acting like Robin Hood and carved out a semi-domain for themselves.Of course, this could be the side-effect of countless wuxia novels/comics being written about the relative time periods.

How well do the Chinese remember them? Do they view them as great, significant events that had major impacts in their history? It doesn't seem to me that they did have that much impact since they were brief coups.

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2004-02-01 02:08pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote: How well do the Chinese remember them? Do they view them as great, significant events that had major impacts in their history? It doesn't seem to me that they did have that much impact since they were brief coups.

Well Qin Shi Huang is a neccesary historical subject, as he was after all, the first emperor of China. As for the rest, it depends I guess. Isn't there a Taiwanese here on the board? He should be able to answer that better than I can.