Jedi Precog

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2004-02-01 01:00pm

I heard that the EU apparently makes much of the Jedi precognitive abilities to "pre-empt" troubles and nip them in the bud.

Other than the orginal script and Illustrated screenplay for AOTC, is there any other evidence for this?

Would this also help explain the massive disparity in the number of Jedi compared to the worlds they need to protect?

Also, if this was how the Jedi operated in the courts, could this explain the undercurrent of resentment against the Jedi, especially if we factor in the fact that many civilians of the Republic will never have seen a Jedi, or his Jedi powers, and that many of the physical manifestations of Force powers, could be explained away with the use of technological aids.

Darth Mall · Post by **Darth Mall** » 2004-02-01 02:05pm

In I, Jedi, the the Jensarri (sp) are able to tell when the Invids were going to be in trouble.
I hope thats what you asking for.

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2004-02-01 03:05pm

Darth Mall wrote:In I, Jedi, the the Jensarri (sp) are able to tell when the Invids were going to be in trouble.
I hope thats what you asking for.

I was asking for Prequel materials.

The script AOTC made reference to a scene between Windu and Yoda, where Windu asked what were the ramifications if the Jedi could not forsee what happened to Senator Amidala. That's the only evidence I know of precog being used to pre-empt events, but I heard that apparently, the EU stated that there was an entire network or system or something the Jedi in the Jedi Temple used.

GySgt. Hartman · Post by **GySgt. Hartman** » 2004-02-01 05:52pm

In the original trilogy, the Emperor talks a lot about how things go as he has foreseen them.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-02-02 02:13am

GySgt. Hartman wrote:In the original trilogy, the Emperor talks a lot about how things go as he has foreseen them.

And, of course, there was Luke's vision of Cloud City and Yoda's discussion of how "through the Force, things you will see... the future... the past... old friends, long gone." Finally, there was Yoda's explanation that "always in motion is the future." Qui-Gon's TPM statement and Shmi's confirmation that Anakin could "see things before they happen. It's a Jedi trait." I think there's ample evidence for Force pre-cog abilities from the films.

I think that in large part people are simply jealous of the Jedi. They're also resentful that the Jedi are willing to solve some peoples' problems, but not their own. Why are my problems less important than theirs? Where were the Jedi when I lost my job because of that stupid boss? Frankly, whenever any group has THAT kind of power over things, and has such great influence over so many aspects of lives and government, there's bound to be resentment throughout society. Coupled with the decline of the Republic, it's easy to see why people would think of the Jedi as being ineffectual and weak.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-02-02 02:16am

Not to mention that there are so few its really easy for propoganda to pass them off as frauds.

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2004-02-02 11:26am

I was asking whether the Jedi Order, in the Old Republic, had something akin to the Precogs in that Tom Cruise movie.

You know, something like the Jedi Order sense"This guy is going to kill Padme tomorrow. Let's bust his ass now and stop him."

I was just wondering whether there was any evidence of the Jedi Order in the Old Republic using precog to nip trouble in the bud, whether by arresting them first or by stationing additional protection, canceling events etc etc etc because I read a claim that in the EU, they did this. However, I just cannot find any examples anywhere, and the only supporting evidence I found was in the AOTC script draft, where Mace and Yoda were talking about why they couldn't forsee Amidala assasination attempt.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-02-02 11:41am

PainRack wrote:I was asking whether the Jedi Order, in the Old Republic, had something akin to the Precogs in that Tom Cruise movie.

You know, something like the Jedi Order sense"This guy is going to kill Padme tomorrow. Let's bust his ass now and stop him."

I was just wondering whether there was any evidence of the Jedi Order in the Old Republic using precog to nip trouble in the bud, whether by arresting them first or by stationing additional protection, canceling events etc etc etc because I read a claim that in the EU, they did this. However, I just cannot find any examples anywhere, and the only supporting evidence I found was in the AOTC script draft, where Mace and Yoda were talking about why they couldn't forsee Amidala assasination attempt.

I doubt that the Republic law permitted arrest only because a jedi said that a crime would happen. And that you are arrested for a crime you not even tried to commit yet.

Alone tring to use foresight to arrest someone before he/she even commited a crime destroys every form of justice, as seen in the TOm Cruise movie.