DS gravity

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-02-12 06:00am

Hi i'm new here to this site and altough im NO expert on the topic i like the SW universe. So go gentle on me

Perhaps its already been posted but I was wondering the following thing.
Whats the deal with the gravity at the DS? Is it the same as with a planet (so with the gravity point in the centre) or is it completely artificial?

Because in ROTJ for expample you see a shuttle enter the DS's equator and every1 is looking directly frontal at it (while you would expect, if the gravity point would be in the centre of the DS, the shuttle should enter the DS right above you).

I know, its hard for me to find the right words but hopefully some1 understands what i mean.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-02-12 07:36am

The Death Star uses artificial gravity generators. It is the same technology used to provide gravity onboard Imperial Star Destroyers.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-02-12 09:00am

Actually, considering the density of the armor of the Death Star they probably have to employ anti-gravity generators on outer portions of it.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-02-12 09:07am

Well, a little surface gravity has to be there.
When we see the pictures of the turbolaser towers of the Death Star firing, we clearly see that some of the plasma discharge falls down before dissapearing.
Picture:

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2004-02-12 09:14am

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Actually, considering the density of the armor of the Death Star they probably have to employ anti-gravity generators on outer portions of it.

Unlikely, the DS is dense, but it's very small compared to a planet. It's gravity would be nearly zero at the surface ( maybe 0.1 g I think ).

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-02-12 10:46am

The Death Star has to use artificial gravity to maintain the same force all throughout the station.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2004-02-12 11:01am

The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.

GySgt. Hartman · Post by **GySgt. Hartman** » 2004-02-12 11:17am

Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.

Yes, by its artificially generated gravity.

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2004-02-12 11:58am

Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.

So the novel is wrong...

The movie shows that the SSD is ROTATING and moving towards the DS... but gravity itself cannot rotate the ship, it would just pull it at the mass center. So it's the engine system that pushes the SSD into the DS.

vakundok · Post by **vakundok** » 2004-02-12 01:29pm

Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.

My novelisation of RotJ does not, so please provide a quote. (My translation only states that the SSD bent and started to twirl toward the DS. It does not mention even a single word about gravity.)

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2004-02-12 04:40pm

HRogge wrote:
Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.
So the novel is wrong...

The movie shows that the SSD is ROTATING and moving towards the DS... but gravity itself cannot rotate the ship, it would just pull it at the mass center. So it's the engine system that pushes the SSD into the DS.

That, and it goes down much too fast for gravity to be the pull. Plus if you want to count the sound, the engines fire up and change pitch.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-12 04:42pm

vakundok wrote:
Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.
My novelisation of RotJ does not, so please provide a quote. (My translation only states that the SSD bent and started to twirl toward the DS. It does not mention even a single word about gravity.)

Yours is not the original version, so it is not reliable.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-02-12 04:44pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
vakundok wrote:
Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.
My novelisation of RotJ does not, so please provide a quote. (My translation only states that the SSD bent and started to twirl toward the DS. It does not mention even a single word about gravity.)
Yours is not the original version, so it is not reliable.

Why? The Special Editions aren't the orginals either.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-12 04:49pm

His copy of the novelisation is a foreign translation.

vakundok · Post by **vakundok** » 2004-02-12 06:14pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Yours is not the original version, so it is not reliable.

Not as reliable as the original. Yes, that is why I asked for the quote from the original. Would you be so kind to provide that?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-12 06:18pm

Mine's 45 miles away.

Black Admiral · Post by **Black Admiral** » 2004-02-12 06:33pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Mine's 45 miles away.

Fortunately mine's right next to me.

Return of the Jedi, page 497 wrote:The bridge was hit, with kaleidoscopic results. A rapid chain reaction got set off, from power station to power station along the middle third of the huge destroyer, producing a dazzling rainbow of explosions that buckled the ship at right angles and started it spinning like a pinwheel toward the Death Star.

There's the quote.

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2004-02-12 06:40pm

Black Admiral wrote:
Return of the Jedi, page 497 wrote:The bridge was hit, with kaleidoscopic results. A rapid chain reaction got set off, from power station to power station along the middle third of the huge destroyer, producing a dazzling rainbow of explosions that buckled the ship at right angles and started it spinning like a pinwheel toward the Death Star.
There's the quote.

So we have an engine malfunction because of a system wide cascade of explosion which throws the SSD into the DS.

So it was definitely NOT the gravity of the DS.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2004-02-12 06:44pm

Anyway is the gravity on the DS mean your always head up relativly or is it more like a planets. so people at the south pole would be upside down compared to people at the north tower

vakundok · Post by **vakundok** » 2004-02-12 07:04pm

Thanks Black Admiral!
Nitpicking: page 497? It is on the 197th page of the hungarian translation.

HRogge wrote:So it was definitely NOT the gravity of the DS.

I asked only because it is so often mentioned (and said to be backed up by the novel). But this is off-topic.

Black Admiral · Post by **Black Admiral** » 2004-02-12 07:09pm

vakundok wrote:Thanks Black Admiral!
Nitpicking: page 497? It is on the 197th page of the hungarian translation.

My copy's the 25th anniversary version, that has all three film novelisations merged.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-12 07:13pm

Crazedwraith wrote:Anyway is the gravity on the DS mean your always head up relativly or is it more like a planets. so people at the south pole would be upside down compared to people at the north tower

The gravity and outer layer of decks are orriented like a planetary surface. For the rest of the inside, gravity and decks are orriented like that of a normal ship.

vakundok · Post by **vakundok** » 2004-02-12 07:14pm

I stand corrected. And enlightened.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-02-13 06:38am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Crazedwraith wrote:Anyway is the gravity on the DS mean your always head up relativly or is it more like a planets. so people at the south pole would be upside down compared to people at the north tower
The gravity and outer layer of decks are orriented like a planetary surface. For the rest of the inside, gravity and decks are orriented like that of a normal ship.

Yes but in that case you wouldnt see the shuttle entering the DS frontal right?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-13 06:42am

The Equatorial docking facilities are orriented the same as the interior.