Should Lucas be removed before he ruins SW completely?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-11-18 11:47pm

Stravo wrote: Read Star Crossed its magically delicious

With 21 Essential Vitamins!

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2002-11-19 05:07pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Stravo wrote: Read Star Crossed its magically delicious
With 21 Essential Vitamins!

But I need Minerals

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-19 05:26pm

Ingersoll wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Note: Bevel Lemilisk was described by LFL sources as on Geonosis during AOTC, he's simply off-screen. He was hired by the Geonosians to assist in the rough designing of the Death Star.
Another mental hoop to jump through? How many escape clauses do they think we can swallow?

Well, since new official trumps old official, they can retcon with will.

The Death Star is a 120 km battlestation employing tech on a scale perviously unheard of. You thought it was designed wholey by one man?

The Death Star's origins are form the mind of one Raithe Sienar, the founder of what would become Sienar Fleet Systems, and build the Interdictor Cruiser and the TIE series of fighters. His PT-era company also built the courier which became Darth Maul's Infiltrator, Scimitar and designed and manufactured the Republic T.I.E. starfighter.

Fact: Several years after the debacle at Naboo, Seinar came up with a 100km (IIRC) diameter sphere sporting a hyperdrive and some jacked-up turbolaser beams as a conceptual weapon. Unlike the Death Star, it didn't have a concave superlaser dish nor was it perfectly spherical. The original concept design (which was just a rough concept with some ideas and just a surface hologram) was called the Expeditionary Battle Planetoid by Seinar. He gave the design to one Captain Wilhuff Tarkin who hurried off to present the concept to Supreme Chancellor Palpatine, while taking credit of course.

Speculation: Darth Sidious investigates the resources and manpower needed for such a device's construction, and ponders its possible use. While it is unlikely it will be constructed for perhaps decades it is important to consider possibilities... Anyway, Sidious must continue his planning for the upcoming war....

Speculation: A year or two preceeding the Clone Wars, Former Jedi Master and Count of Sorenno, Dooku, also known as Sith Lord Darth Tyranus, parlays with Archduke of Geonosis, Poggle the Lesser, who have already been contracted in the past to construct the Trade Federation's army. They are excellent manufacturers and competant engineers. While negotiating with Poggle in plans to secede from the Galactic Republic, Dooku introduces the brilliant young engineering genius, Bevel Lemilisk, and several of his assistant prodigies, specializing in sublight engine and hyperdrive design, to hypermatter physics and composite laser weaponry. The Count also gives the Archduke a gift of their alliance: the unrefined concept holograms and data for Raithe Sienar's Expeditionary Battle Planetoid. The Archduke's best engineers begin to work along side young Lemilisk and his assistants to see if it would be possible to produce a useful version of this device, and if so, begin designing it. The Count informs Poggle that this weapon will hopefully be constructed for the soon-to-be Confederacy of Independent Systems.

Fact: The Clone Wars' first battle cuts the engineering project short. However, Lemilisk and the Geonosian hive engineers has refined the concept into a bare 100 km sphere sporting a large concave composite laser weapon capable of devestating planets and deduced nearly all of the requirements and resources needed for its construction. Lemilisk at least manages to escape before the Clone Army siezed control of Geonosis. The design departs from the Death Star in the larger size of superlaser relative to the whole of the battle station. Lord Tyranus downloads the project data and departs with it for Coruscant. He provides his Master with the fruits of Lemilisk and the Geonosian hive engineers' labor.

Speculation: The design sports specifications for troop complements and sublight drive as well as neccessary resources and facilities needed for its construction, but the specific physics and design of the massive composite laser weapon and the hyperdrive, as well as the hypermatter reactor needed to power such devices, remain incomplete. Lord Sidious again places the design in freeze, and begins the creation of a new order...

Fact: Supreme Chancellor Palpatine is crowned Palpatine I, Emperor of the Galactic Empire. The New Order has begun.

Speculation: Emperor Palpatine uses data from the incomplete Expeditionary Battle Planetoid project to have the Eye of Palpatine and several other creations built.

Speculation: Palpatine, secure in his power, wishes to finally construct his weapon after many years.

Fact: Palpatine provides Grand Moff Tarkin with the incomplete project data, and instructs him to finish the design and produce a working prototype. He also provides him with the genius engineer, Lemilisk, to help complete the project he abandoned years before on Geonosis. Aboard the secret Maw Installation, Lemilisk and niave avian scientist and genius Qwi Xux complete the project with the help of fellow Maw Installation colleages. The product is the design a 160 km sphere containing perhaps billions of troops and thousands of fighters and turbolasers, while supporting the awesome plant mass-scattering "Superlaser" composite weapon mounted in a massive concave dish on the spherical battle station. A 120 km stripped-down hyperdrive-less prototype sports a miniturized superlaser (in-capable of scattering the mass of something as large as a Earth-size planet, but enough to scatter the mass of a smaller moon) that demonstrates the effectiveness of the design.

Fact: Construction under the auspices of Tarkin begins at the Imperial Penal Colony of Despayre which is shut down and isolated from the rest of the Oversector. Wookie slaves and prisoners are used as labor where neccessary. Engineer Lemilisk arrives at the site with Tarkin to oversee the final stage of construction...along with Lord Vader who "persuades" construction managers of speeding up their progress.

Fact: The 120 km planet-destroying battle station known as the Death Star I is completed. The event, culminating 30 years since the original concept originated, is celebrated....by destroying Desoayre.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-19 05:28pm

Arg.

"planet mass-scattering" not "plant mass scattering"

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-19 06:07pm

Hmm, no mentions of hungry, hungry hippos anywhere, I therefore rate this as an F!

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-19 06:41pm

Hungry, hungry hippos?

I'll remember that next time, Shadow.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-11-21 06:46pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Shinova wrote:Lucas should stick to technical aspects of the movies, while letting someone else coordinate the directing, dialogue, and acting.
Yeah, his latest comment that all stormies are clones is bullshit!

He had the capability to make them all clones in 1977 by putting out
a casting call for people of a SPECIFIC height to act as the
stormtroopers, as well as dubbing their voices....and now he wants
to go back and retroactively edit them?

Where on the DVD does he say this? I'd like to see it.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2002-11-22 08:41pm

yeah you're probably right