Repbulic Blockade Runner

[Kartr_Kana]

Not familiar with the "14e6, 18e6" etc. Can you elaborate?

[Connor MacLeod]

scientific notation. 1e6 would be about a million (cubic meters?)by volume.

[Kartr_Kana]

Thanks Connor, I figured that that's what it was I just wasn't familiar with that particular formula. It's been a few years since I did any serious math.

[VT-16]

It doesn't come across as tiny to me. I've read several issues where it figures and it looks more like a brick than a regular thin wedge. Its height is a significant portion of its length, and there appears to be some kind of reactor system bulging out of its sides.

[Connor MacLeod]

FRankly I don't ever really care much about whether or not SW had enough "big ships" or not. It seems a rather silly question when we know for a fact they HAVE had big ships of variosu sizes at various tiumes. Hell, we know ship sizes have varied throughout history due to numerous factors (styles, governments, economies, ,whatever.) Building bigger ships is just another design trade-off, same as "short ranve vs long range hpyerdrive" or "lots of little guns vs a few big ones" or whatever. You can have perfectly viable reasons for building small ships as well as big ones, but it can bite you in the asses in some cases (Black Fleet Crisis proved that.)

I mean if you wanted to apply the "what they should do" logic, Palpy should have been able to build hundreds if not thousands of automated death stars and quntillions of competent battle droids and had no trouble taking over the Republic through force rather than guile. But, he didn't.

And to be perfectly blunt there's not really any pressing need in the SW Universe for large numbers (like millions) of Executors anyhow, even though they could build them. THere is no conceivable threat to the Empire, external or otherwise, and an excessive military buildup with no target is both suspicious and probably more destabilizing than unifying (since local navies of some members like Kuat or corellia or other big core worlds nations are going to be quite powerful in their own right, albeit short ranged.) With the industrial capabilities SW has demonstrated (and the fact that local powers can exhibit tremendous industrial might - ie GEnonosians building a DS) the possibility of widespread and apocalytpic escalation of force must be a real threat, and thus artificailly suppressed for reasons of security.

[VT-16]

The interesting thing about ship sizes, is that the SW history has a long line of them in its timeline, it's just that they usually get classified as spacestations. The Inexpugnable (and thus presumably, the Lucrehulk), Executor, Eclipse and Viscount all get called this in recent stats. We also see large space stations throughout the galaxy at all times, which might explain the distinction. Usually capital ships are smaller than the space habitats one usually is familiar when you hear the word "space station", so they keep referring to heavy capital ships as this.

[Ender]

They didn't really cover much of anything from the TOTJ, which could seriously use some updating, however you still have some larger sith and republic vessels that are not covered (including the republic cruiser seen in the dark lords of the sith which could be multiple km long)

I am mainly disappointed in the size of the mandalorian dreadnaught, after some discussion with Dustin Weaver (the artist that drew most of the ships in the ongoing KOTOR comics) and some sketches he gave me for reference I was very tempted to say it was overall longer than the Inexpugnable, but it is about a third the size it should be in the end.... The basilikan battleship doesn't bother me as much because it is pretty tall and the reactor would be rather large inside the football helmet shaped hull (at least on par with an ISD before efficiency adjustments)

The Inexpugnable is an incredibly massive craft (well into the GCW era Star Cruiser, star battleship range), if those are reactors with integrated guns, they are utterly enormous (approaching the size of entire mon cal cruisers) even assuming inefficiencies in gunnery you could pretty much look at it as having 6 munifiscent bow guns but with adequate generation to keep them fed.

I have no problem with the Hammerhead size (it was corvette sized in the games, there is no reason to make it larger, it had some decent anti fighter weaponry and two larger front facing guns, but it really is just a light patrol vessel) So I would complain more about the lack of a good mid range workhorse frigate in the 400-600m range. (which maybe the leviathan was supposed to address?) the Centurion fits nicely into a fleet escort for the Inexpugnable essentially as an analogue to a victory star destroyer.

I'd pretty much agree with the previous post otherwise, possibly revan took the leviathan specifically because of the grav well would be useful.

basically I think what we see with the republic at this time is similar to the state it was in before the clone wars, the local navies are providing most of the assault deterrent and the republic is essentially playing galactic cop and peace keeper on the worlds it sees as valuable. When the Mandalorian wars start becoming a problem to republic member planets, the locals are unprepared for concentrated assaults and the republic are utterly unprepared to defend against hit and run strip mining tactics (the levithan design would become a key element in stopping the mandalorian mobility) The mandalorians also have no qualms about depopulating worlds simply to send a message or Stripping worlds for resources and this would be terrifying to the republic populace.

In fact this leaves plenty of room for unseen battlewagon vessels to be parked in orbit around key worlds as wetnurses to scared populaces, because the Mandalorians would be bold enough to strike anywhere just for the sport of it and need something of incredible deterrent that would be able to decimate their mobility.

What are your numbers for the Inex? I haven't really looked at anything other then the main timeline, so I'm curious.

[Ender]

You can get the infor on the inex and hammer head here

[evillejedi]

For the inexpugnable I have only a partial model done, but it has an accurate disc volume and a good approximation of the geometry of the rest of the ship (based on direct input from the artist Dustin Weaver)

the disc is 658 e6 m^3 and I'd put the whole vessel at about 800-1100e6 m^3 so roughly 9-10 times as massive as an ISD

if the reactors are embedded in the gun blisters, then I'd say 40e6 would probably be the max which would be equivalent to the Allegiance at 2.3 km and one of the other anonymous star cruisers in DE.

The mando dread volume measurement is near exact, it shouldn't be bigger than I stated by any measurable amount.

[Ender]

For the inexpugnable I have only a partial model done, but it has an accurate disc volume and a good approximation of the geometry of the rest of the ship (based on direct input from the artist Dustin Weaver)

the disc is 658 e6 m^3 and I'd put the whole vessel at about 800-1100e6 m^3 so roughly 9-10 times as massive as an ISD

if the reactors are embedded in the gun blisters, then I'd say 40e6 would probably be the max which would be equivalent to the Allegiance at 2.3 km and one of the other anonymous star cruisers in DE.

The mando dread volume measurement is near exact, it shouldn't be bigger than I stated by any measurable amount.

Yeah, I've been doing some slapdash work here from a few imaged from wookipedia, that's kinda close to what I'm getting. The real freaky part is scaling the guns: Those barrels on the big heavies are ~75 m in diameter from what I'm getting. Barrel length shifts from shot to shot, but bounced between 130-220 meters long. This thing is gonna be able to punch harder then a SPHA-T, and do so continuously.

[Illuminatus Primus]

And to be perfectly blunt there's not really any pressing need in the SW Universe for large numbers (like millions) of Executors anyhow, even though they could build them. THere is no conceivable threat to the Empire, external or otherwise, and an excessive military buildup with no target is both suspicious and probably more destabilizing than unifying (since local navies of some members like Kuat or corellia or other big core worlds nations are going to be quite powerful in their own right, albeit short ranged.)

Didn't you just say that there are no threats then describe potential ones?

With the industrial capabilities SW has demonstrated (and the fact that local powers can exhibit tremendous industrial might - ie GEnonosians building a DS) the possibility of widespread and apocalytpic escalation of force must be a real threat, and thus artificailly suppressed for reasons of security.

How is that suppression applied? Forcibly? Economically?

[Ender]

You know, the more I learn about this and look at it, the more I am impressed by the level of thought the guys at Dark Horse and WotC gave this. During the Sith War, Ulic Qel-Droma wiped out the entire Republic fleet by feinting and raiding Coruscant, and then sending immediate jump coordinates from the Navy command to every ship to the same spot, destroying them all.

Like the excerpt says, the Republic would be eager to regain control the space ways, as without a Navy they are very vulnerable. Building big ships takes time and resources, and they need a fleet NOW, so they opt instead to buy an absolute ass ton of Hammerhead class ships, which can be built in 10 days. This gives them the space presence, but when you have so many ships you need to coordinate them. Further, while you have strength in numbers, you still need a heavy hitter. So they order a bunch of Inexpugnables as well, at a 1:64 ratio for the Hammerheads. Inexies provide the heavy hitting power, long range, and CNC abilities that the Hammerheads lack.

Enter the Mandalorians. They are still on war footing, so after a generation or so of building up in the Outer Rim they start hiting the Republic and hitting it hard. The Mandalroians, not being an industrial society, can't lay their hands on anything near what a galactic power or great power could, but since all those ships were wiped out they have a free reign. What the did have (Kyramuds and Kandosii [whatever the heck the plural of that is]) was more then sufficient to wipe the floor with Hammerheads. They can't match the Inexies, but the design of the Inexies means that they can't really bring much firepower to bear on a target, only a few guns at a time. So if you can get in really close or engage from beyond their effective turbolaser range. The Kandosaii is distinctively designed for the latter, as its slim profile minimizes its ability to be hit and it mounts a number of large missile launchers (anyone try scaling these?) with a large ammo capacity. Missiles, being self powered homing weapons, can be fired at greater range then TLs can and still be expected to hit the target (light speed lag and high accelerations make TLs dicey weapons as you get further out)

One can rather easily track the course of the war then. The improvised fleet of the Republic is no match for the stolen fleet of the Mandalorians on a ship to ship basis, and the large ships that can defeat them can be neutralized through the tactics that the Mandalorian fleet is geared towards. The Republic counters this by then pushing the Interdictor class and Centurion class into service. While the latter cannot match the capabilities of the Inexpugnable, its ability to make up for the shortcomings of the class and effectively engage and destroy the heaviest enemy ships lets it step up as a replacement battlecruiser, even if it would pale before modern designs.

[evillejedi]

If artistic impression is reality they could be up to 3.5-4m in diameter and about 28m long, I checked and 120 missiles could fit into the blade easily at this size. Dustin also told me that he intended the blade to be removable like an ammo clip (so we may see the vessel without it in the future)

[Kartr_Kana]

IP why should Kuat, Corellia or any other Core worlds with credibly powerful fleets try to attack their neighbors? The others would slap them down, especially if the Republic(new and old) had a UN/NATO like agreement between it's member states. Kuat goes apeshit on some poor little system, the Republic asks Fondor, Corellia and Rendilli to step in and put Kuat back in their place. Kuat's rivals jump at the chance to hurt their competitor so they carry out a vicious campaign including a final battle over Kuat Prime which destroys the entire orbital construction yards. Their rival destroyed the three company's divide the spoils and take over Kuat's market share. Anything short of that you slap economic sanctions on them. Since they're companies it will hurt them far more then if they were just States.

Like I said before the prevalence of smaller ships doesn't bother me. It makes sense in a Galaxy that's been at peace for thousands of years. Minus the occasional inter-sector flare up. All you need are smaller ships to combat pirates and smugglers. Have a few bigger ships in reserve to act as a deterrent for your neighbors, but mostly to hunt pirate bases. It's not till the end of the Republic where the need for larger warships emerge to combat out of control Sith backed conglomerates.

My only problem is in all the drawings of the Hammerhead and Inxie side by side the hammerhead looks much larger then 315m. After reading Ender's post I actually like the idea of it being smaller and mass producible on such a large scale. Especially since the Republic would probably be more worried about pirates and hold outs then large threats. The Hammerhead's design which appears to be optimized for pursuit of smaller ships makes perfect sense.

Ender that progression was what I was trying to point out earlier I just didn't know the back story that went with it.

Evil let me get this right your saying that the Inex has roughly the reactor out put of two Allegiance class vessels?

[Illuminatus Primus]

IP why should Kuat, Corellia or any other Core worlds with credibly powerful fleets try to attack their neighbors? The others would slap them down, especially if the Republic(new and old) had a UN/NATO like agreement between it's member states. Kuat goes apeshit on some poor little system, the Republic asks Fondor, Corellia and Rendilli to step in and put Kuat back in their place. Kuat's rivals jump at the chance to hurt their competitor so they carry out a vicious campaign including a final battle over Kuat Prime which destroys the entire orbital construction yards. Their rival destroyed the three company's divide the spoils and take over Kuat's market share. Anything short of that you slap economic sanctions on them. Since they're companies it will hurt them far more then if they were just States.

Because of politics? You don't see some coalition of larger states ever ganging up on and squishing a minor one when the Senate is distracted or trends set against them? What the fuck does the Republic - especially its military - do if they member state militaries can be counted on playing nice just because? Why would a UN-esque ideological policy do anything to completely freeze out conflict? It doesn't with us. And furthermore, we've observed member states picking on lesser powers and engaging in gunboat diplomacy. You're acting as if the Member States should all act to protect the Republic's power in all circumstances. If such common action was so reliable on its own, why would the Republic need a military? And the idea that succession was a marginal/nonexistent threat over a million members and twenty-five thousand years of history strikes me as naive.

Like I said before the prevalence of smaller ships doesn't bother me. It makes sense in a Galaxy that's been at peace for thousands of years. Minus the occasional inter-sector flare up. All you need are smaller ships to combat pirates and smugglers. Have a few bigger ships in reserve to act as a deterrent for your neighbors, but mostly to hunt pirate bases. It's not till the end of the Republic where the need for larger warships emerge to combat out of control Sith backed conglomerates.

I agree to an extent. However, the fact is that large freighters should be able to cook some of the smaller ships with their engines alone. It stretches credibility when large freighters with concealable wield-on modifications could be dominant over the military forces of the galactic government.

Ultimately and extrinsically, we all know the creative minds behind everything put nothing like this kind of thought into it.

My only problem is in all the drawings of the Hammerhead and Inxie side by side the hammerhead looks much larger then 315m. After reading Ender's post I actually like the idea of it being smaller and mass producible on such a large scale. Especially since the Republic would probably be more worried about pirates and hold outs then large threats. The Hammerhead's design which appears to be optimized for pursuit of smaller ships makes perfect sense.

I agree with your comment on size too. I also think that the idea that the entire Republic navy was destroyed and the Republic did not institutionally implode to be unrealistic, and doubt the destruction as so comprehensive.

[Kartr_Kana]

Because of politics? You don't see some coalition of larger states ever ganging up on and squishing a minor one when the Senate is distracted or trends set against them? What the fuck does the Republic - especially its military - do if they member state militaries can be counted on playing nice just because? Why would a UN-esque ideological policy do anything to completely freeze out conflict? It doesn't with us. And furthermore, we've observed member states picking on lesser powers and engaging in gunboat diplomacy. You're acting as if the Member States should all act to protect the Republic's power in all circumstances. If such common action was so reliable on its own, why would the Republic need a military? And the idea that succession was a marginal/nonexistent threat over a million members and twenty-five thousand years of history strikes me as naive.

This isn't the U.N. slapping sanctions on Iran or Korea here, with those two nations being so cut off from outside commerce that it doesn't bother them. We're talking about the U.S. telling Ford that until the move their troops out of Detroit they can't sell cars. And we ask Chevy, Toyota and Mitsubishi to deploy forces to enforce that sanction. Fords competitors jump at the chance to secure a larger market for themselves or even destroy a rival. I know that's really simplistic, but that's how I see it working.

We actually have examples in SW that this is how it works. Czerka does just about whatever the hell they want, same with the Arkanians. What stopped them? IIRC the Arkanians got wiped out in some sort of civil war, but Czerka. Czerka still lives in the Galactic Empire so what's held it in check all these years? Maybe Rendilli Hyperworks, CEC and other mega-corperations.

The PT shows us what happens when this system breaks down. The Senate slapped sanctions on the TF but due to corruption it never passed/was enforced. Which lead to Civil War, notice how the Seps have the TF and the TU while the Republic has the support of Kuat, and I'm assuming CEC since I don't remember hearing about them defecting.

I agree it's an appalling system and is a testament to the Jedi and the small Republic Navy that it lasted for so long.

I agree to an extent. However, the fact is that large freighters should be able to cook some of the smaller ships with their engines alone. It stretches credibility when large freighters with concealable wield-on modifications could be dominant over the military forces of the galactic government.

Ultimately and extrinsically, we all know the creative minds behind everything put nothing like this kind of thought into it.

True, but that's exactly what we see in the PT. However if you notice the Hammerhead's have sufficient fire power to deal with the most freighters we know of, even some larger then it's self. Especially if they use wolf pack tactics and the sheer numbers of them means that wolf packs are a viable tactic. Any super freighters that are to larger for the Hammerheads can be dealt with by the Inxepungables.

Once again I agree with you that the creative minds behind most cannon work are far to minimalistic.

Excellent point about the Republic not imploding after the loss of its fleet.

[Illuminatus Primus]

This isn't the U.N. slapping sanctions on Iran or Korea here, with those two nations being so cut off from outside commerce that it doesn't bother them. We're talking about the U.S. telling Ford that until the move their troops out of Detroit they can't sell cars. And we ask Chevy, Toyota and Mitsubishi to deploy forces to enforce that sanction. Fords competitors jump at the chance to secure a larger market for themselves or even destroy a rival. I know that's really simplistic, but that's how I see it working.

Except the central government, while stronger than the United Nations, is much weaker and much stranger than the U.S. federal government. And in one of the listed scenarios, we're talking about a U.S. federal government deprived of all of its armed power; the States would reassert themselves out of defense and security necessities in such a case.

We actually have examples in SW that this is how it works. Czerka does just about whatever the hell they want, same with the Arkanians. What stopped them? IIRC the Arkanians got wiped out in some sort of civil war, but Czerka. Czerka still lives in the Galactic Empire so what's held it in check all these years? Maybe Rendilli Hyperworks, CEC and other mega-corperations.

But that doesn't mean the Republic can do it with just strongly-worded warnings. The U.S. federal government can get our companies to behave because unlawful actions - especially those backed with armed force - would be put down by the government's armed force. It is the monopoly on armed force that gives the state its power. Without armed force in excess of likely challenges, the Republic will not be a credible power. In the absence of a credible unionizing, law-imposing power, the galactic system will revert to an anarchic struggle between comparable powers and political actors (like our sovereign state system), at least until a coalition can put together a replacement - backed by similar dominance in armed force.

The PT shows us what happens when this system breaks down. The Senate slapped sanctions on the TF but due to corruption it never passed/was enforced. Which lead to Civil War, notice how the Seps have the TF and the TU while the Republic has the support of Kuat, and I'm assuming CEC since I don't remember hearing about them defecting.

Exactly, which is why the Republic needs strong force to keep its subordinates in line. Its not that the Republic needs to use it in most cases, although in a galaxy as big as SW, you'd expect sometimes individual states or what have you do attempt grabs hoping to seal their deal before Coruscant notices.

True, but that's exactly what we see in the PT.

Which is exactly why the Republic in stable periods needs a strong reserve of power. I think you don't understand the kind of power output mere freight requires in SW. Stellar-range, highly-compact power sources are civilian owned and operated. Han Solo could fuck up an Earth-level world by relativistically ramming it with the MF.

However if you notice the Hammerhead's have sufficient fire power to deal with the most freighters we know of, even some larger then it's self. Especially if they use wolf pack tactics and the sheer numbers of them means that wolf packs are a viable tactic. Any super freighters that are to larger for the Hammerheads can be dealt with by the Inxepungables.

Maybe. I'm not saying its not probably an okay fix. Its what we have to work with. I'm stating is a cludge and ad hoc reasoning that is the product of poorly thought out creative process.

Once again I agree with you that the creative minds behind most cannon work are far to minimalistic.

Excellent point about the Republic not imploding after the loss of its fleet.

Thanks, on both points. I've never read TotJ, so I'm not really sure what Ender's talking about. I certainly can't find it on Wookiee, but that hardly means its not true. I hope he cites the source in greater detail.

[evillejedi]

The Republic could have lost its easily mobilizable forces in the ruse by Ulic, at that point every world the republic wants to hold on to (influential, resource, manufacturing, any reason really) immediately panics and demands that defensive forces stay in orbit (moving any force even for a few hours would open the world up to the Mandalorians ruthless hit and run attacks.) Repeatedly the Republic (and later the empire and NR) is shown playing nanny to the core worlds and essentially ignoring the rim for long periods of time with the exception of key worlds.

from the SW.com databank

Many of the galaxy's most industrialized worlds are key members of the Techno Union. Factory planets like Fondor, Foundry, Mechis III, Telti, and Metalorn churn out cutting edge technology to a galaxy that has become increasingly reliant on innovations for day-to-day needs.

Respected corporations such as Baktoid Armor Workshop, Haor Chall Engineering, Republic Sienar Systems, Kuat Systems Engineering, TaggeCo, BlasTech Industries, and the Corellian Engineering Corporation are all signatories, to some degree, of the Techno Union.

Rendilli is a notable exception on the list in the clone wars, but I would believe that all companies probably profited from both sides of the clone wars through various subsidiaries. Given that palpatine was orchestrating the entire war to form the Empire's backbone I imagine that very little oversight was given to KDY, CEC, Fondor etc as long as they kept producing bigger and better vessels more efficiently.

The TOTJ era politics between the Republic and major manufacturing worlds probably went along the lines of 'CEC, KDY, XXX we want to buy a lot more of this stuff than anyone else can possibly afford, so we'll let you keep a local defense force (and turn a blind eye to how you run it as long as you stay inside this vaguely defined boundary) and everyone will be happy' The relative autonomy in worlds (even sectors?) like Corellia and Kuat seems extremely long standing in the Republic and may be special status granted as being founding members.

[Kartr_Kana]

I concede that the Republic needs a navy with serious firepower. In my defense I never thought that it was a particularly workable theory I was just trying to find and in universe explanation for the minimalistic forces we see. Maybe signatory states contribute heavier warships to the Republic Navy as one of the terms of joining.

We know that the Republic has a Navy 20 years prior to TPM IIRC. Pelleaon mentions fighting crazy clones at the beginning of the war. However it seems to have disappeared except for some diplomatic "Republic Cruisers" by the time of the Naboo Blockade. So I guess the question is where did it go in those 20 or so years?

Yes I understand the power requirements, I'm just saying what we see for freight shipping is usually pretty small. There's a few that are over a kilometer in length but most are smaller then that. At least those I'm familiar with. Yes while they have enormous power generation capabilities they should still be less powerful then a dedicated warship of the same size.

All this to say I agree that the Republic needs larger warships. I just don't see them so I'm trying to find a way to explain that. Evil has a good point about the core worlds getting excessive protection at the expense of the mid rim and further out.

[VT-16]

The undamaged Centurion-class looks massive! It's like the Ravager was literally a skeletal version of its former self.

[Kartr_Kana]

those tracks on the top could they be there to allow that armored peice to slide back and reveal a dorsal hanger? That thing is beautiful it almost looks like there's atmospheric maneuvering fins/thrusters on the rear edges? I wonder if that means it has the ability to land.

[VT-16]

Now they got the Kandosii-class dreadnaught up. It looks massive. If you stacked several Venators on top of one another, they'd still not measure up to this thing.

[Kartr_Kana]

Beautiful! That is huge! what's the firepower for that thing?

[Ender]

I agree with your comment on size too. I also think that the idea that the entire Republic navy was destroyed and the Republic did not institutionally implode to be unrealistic, and doubt the destruction as so comprehensive.

More unrealistic then a few billion to a few trillion people whose society rejects science, engineering, and industry in favor of macho chest beating overwhelming a galactic power who does embrace those traits?

When Ulic Qel-Droma was first captured, it was on a surprise attack to COruscant. He and a number of Mandalorians breach the security of the Naval complex. Mandalore and a few others stole all the plans, tech, and info about the Republic military that they could, while Ulic and his commandos sent emergency jump coordinates to the fleet. All units were to jump to the same spot, which would have them collide and be destroyed. IIRC, the panel blends into a shot of ships exploding, suggesting it worked. As Ulic was leaving the complex, he was captured, but Mandalore and the others got away with their stolen tech.

As to the Republic not imploding from this, a few points: Firstly the Jedi Organization at this time was far better suited to keeping the Republic unified. They still had the Watchmen system enacted, so they could react to scenarios before they got out of control. Secondly, we know that parts of the Republic did implode, the Kantz Disorders and Cleansing of the Nine Houses for example. Thirdly, the massive corruption of the later era hadn't fully set in yet. This, coupled with the fact that there was an uprising going on, tends to unify people rather then lead to them playing their own games. (e.g. the sheepish following of Bush after 9/11)

Wookipedia is claiming that the fleets never jumped, which sharply contrasts with what I recall. I'll try to look at the omnibus next time I'm at the store, but for now, given the bullshit people like to play over there I'm going to assume Nebulax or some other retard is playing games again.

Now they got the Kandosii-class dreadnaught up. It looks massive. If you stacked several Venators on top of one another, they'd still not measure up to this thing.

Don't let the lack of a frame of reference fool you. It is only a little bit bigger then the Venator, the Venator is 13e6 m^3.

Beautiful! That is huge! what's the firepower for that thing?

About that of the Venator depending on the acceleration and with the volume range EJ provided on the past page.

[Darth Hoth]

When Ulic Qel-Droma was first captured, it was on a surprise attack to COruscant. He and a number of Mandalorians breach the security of the Naval complex. Mandalore and a few others stole all the plans, tech, and info about the Republic military that they could, while Ulic and his commandos sent emergency jump coordinates to the fleet. All units were to jump to the same spot, which would have them collide and be destroyed. IIRC, the panel blends into a shot of ships exploding, suggesting it worked. As Ulic was leaving the complex, he was captured, but Mandalore and the others got away with their stolen tech.

[. . . ]

Wookipedia is claiming that the fleets never jumped, which sharply contrasts with what I recall. I'll try to look at the omnibus next time I'm at the store, but for now, given the bullshit people like to play over there I'm going to assume Nebulax or some other retard is playing games again.

I read that comic as part of my EUFic research, and I found nothing to indicate that his attempt to blow the Republic Navy up succeeded. He told a Republic officer to transmit those coordinates to all the fleets, yes, but that officer resisted, even when he Vader-choked him. Then when he was going to threaten another of the officers, Cay, Nomi and company burst in to stop him; he was not leaving, they interrupted him in the middle of it. There were no shots of ships colliding or exploding in that sequence, and we see Republic forces later on (e.g., Captain Vanicus).

So, unless it is stated in some God-forsaken sourcebook or Hyperspace article, they did not, in fact, jump, and Wookiee is right for once.