Size of the Imperial Fleet

[Jim Raynor]

I think it can be said that a vast majority of WEG warships dont exist. The only ones that do thus far are the isd and their subclassed, The command ships the escort frigate the corellian corvette, med transports, and the cal cruisers, the liberty class winged type, the wingless type and the Home One class. The Acclamator, the Neimodian battleships and the Banking clan warships or tech union ships whoever those other ships in EPII belong to. The communications ship a larger isd and the isd in rotj that seems to be a dedicated warship.

The movie evidence eliminates all the rest thus far.

OMG, not this fucking "canon only" Darkstar bullshit again.

[His Divine Shadow]

I would have to disagree with this assumption. For one we dont have an accurate portrayal of the RSD, and the weapons on an ISD may be highr that previously thought. Reviwing the model of the Avenger on Saxton's page one can see numerous structures that look like medium to large tl turrets. I would say the ISD either model is far superior to a scaled down version like the RSD. Perhaps if we had an accurate model of the RSD such a comparison could be made, and we could speculate forever on this topic alone.

Perhaps, but I would still say the Impstar was a low production ship due it being such a multi-purpose ship.

[Vympel]

Don't misunderstand me, I don't NOT include the EU, I simply DON'T LIKE THEIR SHIPS. Honestly they suck! The only acceptable ones are those that are dagger-shaped.

Cpt_Frank:

the SW2ICS quote is:

"Main reactor is hidden within hull terraces, unlike the bulbous ventral protrusions of more powerful ships of Kuat's sectorial fleet, such as the Mandator-class Star Dreadnought and the Procurator-class Star Battlecruiser"

Now, as to whether we'll se ISDs in the next film:

It's possible. Who remembers in Empire Strikes Back- the Imperial March starts going and we see Star Destroyers. Cool. And then a shadow gets cast over it. The Executor. FWAR. Definitely a great moment.

In the same way, a really big impressive Republic/ Imperial ship that may or may not be an ISD will make an appearance in Episode III. Those Acclamators are small troop ships- if there's one thing we know about George Lucas is that he goes for SIZE.

[AL]

I think it can be said that a vast majority of WEG warships dont exist. The only ones that do thus far are the isd and their subclassed, The command ships the escort frigate the corellian corvette, med transports, and the cal cruisers, the liberty class winged type, the wingless type and the Home One class. The Acclamator, the Neimodian battleships and the Banking clan warships or tech union ships whoever those other ships in EPII belong to. The communications ship a larger isd and the isd in rotj that seems to be a dedicated warship.

The movie evidence eliminates all the rest thus far.

OMG, not this fucking "canon only" Darkstar bullshit again.

I'm not quite sure what you mean here, but arent we seeing the WEG and EU universe falling apart. If we examin movie evidence and novel evidence dont we see that a majority of the thing in weg and the eu dont exist.

[His Divine Shadow]

I'm not quite sure what you mean here, but arent we seeing the WEG and EU universe falling apart. If we examin movie evidence and novel evidence dont we see that a majority of the thing in weg and the eu dont exist.

Uhm, no?
The EU is fine, if not better than ever with new actually good books coming out.

[AL]

I'm not quite sure what you mean here, but arent we seeing the WEG and EU universe falling apart. If we examin movie evidence and novel evidence dont we see that a majority of the thing in weg and the eu dont exist.

Uhm, no?
The EU is fine, if not better than ever with new actually good books coming out.

are these new books making any references to the weaponry on the capital ships? The heavy guns and point defense weapons?

If you think they are good tell me which books they are. I would like to check them out.

[Connor MacLeod]

I think it can be said that a vast majority of WEG warships dont exist. The only ones that do thus far are the isd and their subclassed, The command ships the escort frigate the corellian corvette, med transports, and the cal cruisers, the liberty class winged type, the wingless type and the Home One class. The Acclamator, the Neimodian battleships and the Banking clan warships or tech union ships whoever those other ships in EPII belong to. The communications ship a larger isd and the isd in rotj that seems to be a dedicated warship.

The movie evidence eliminates all the rest thus far.

OMG, not this fucking "canon only" Darkstar bullshit again.

I'm not quite sure what you mean here, but arent we seeing the WEG and EU universe falling apart. If we examin movie evidence and novel evidence dont we see that a majority of the thing in weg and the eu dont exist.

Some of us have an extreme aversion to the "EU sucks because its EU" crowd. Granted there are parts of it that do suck, but certain individuals (such as this Darkstar) generalize it to such a degree that they abhor any mention of it and take any opportunity toi rant about hoiw inconsistent it is.

Your cnversations ahve revealed a definite leaning towards that viewpoint. So don't be surprised if your 'opinions' encounter resistance, if not hostility. Not everyone here buys into the "EU is crap" theory.

[AL]

OMG, not this fucking "canon only" Darkstar bullshit again.

I'm not quite sure what you mean here, but arent we seeing the WEG and EU universe falling apart. If we examin movie evidence and novel evidence dont we see that a majority of the thing in weg and the eu dont exist.

Some of us have an extreme aversion to the "EU sucks because its EU" crowd. Granted there are parts of it that do suck, but certain individuals (such as this Darkstar) generalize it to such a degree that they abhor any mention of it and take any opportunity toi rant about hoiw inconsistent it is.

Your cnversations ahve revealed a definite leaning towards that viewpoint. So don't be surprised if your 'opinions' encounter resistance, if not hostility. Not everyone here buys into the "EU is crap" theory.

Dont take it the wron way. I would love to read more EU books. I would like them to reflect info and data from observations from the movies. Some of the stories are horrible but there are a few that are good. I'm not saying scrap the EU, but perhaps it just needs some consistencey, and this Dark Star guy is a nut. I read Wongs post about him last night. I'm not that bad am I, I don't try and force my views on anyone do I? If i argue about something I will at least try and back it up with facts and not idiotic rants.

[Connor MacLeod]

I'm not quite sure what you mean here, but arent we seeing the WEG and EU universe falling apart. If we examin movie evidence and novel evidence dont we see that a majority of the thing in weg and the eu dont exist.

Some of us have an extreme aversion to the "EU sucks because its EU" crowd. Granted there are parts of it that do suck, but certain individuals (such as this Darkstar) generalize it to such a degree that they abhor any mention of it and take any opportunity toi rant about hoiw inconsistent it is.

Your cnversations ahve revealed a definite leaning towards that viewpoint. So don't be surprised if your 'opinions' encounter resistance, if not hostility. Not everyone here buys into the "EU is crap" theory.

Dont take it the wron way. I would love to read more EU books. I would like them to reflect info and data from observations from the movies. Some of the stories are horrible but there are a few that are good. I'm not saying scrap the EU, but perhaps it just needs some consistencey, and this Dark Star guy is a nut. I read Wongs post about him last night. I'm not that bad am I, I don't try and force my views on anyone do I? If i argue about something I will at least try and back it up with facts and not idiotic rants.

Maybe people would not be so suspicious of ytou being another Darkstar if you were a bit clear. Thus far as I can see, every thread you have engaged in has involved at least one attempt to argue that a contradiction exists in the EU (more particularily WEG or the EGV&V.) but you have never stated WHY you are doing this.

Everyone I know of abides by the "official unless contradicted directly by canon" policy, but this is going a bit beyond that. You seem to be going out of your way to pick on WEG and the EG, if not other sources by implication. This is what a number of "bad" debators have done, least of all Darkstar (hence the whole Mike Wong debate with him, not to mention the numerous posts before that.). Usually the person doing this is trying to either deny a particular bit of EU, or to deny Warsies the use of EU as they are allowed to. Some just have such a grudge against the EU that they can not abide its presence or even mention of it, and go out of their way to point out how inconsistent it is with the "true" Star Wars (though this purist philosophy is, in my own mind, just as bad as the Darkstar-type of mentality.)

So what I really have to ask is, what is your purpose behind trying to cast doubt on the EU? Its obvious you HAVE an agenda or reason for this, so spill it.