DS 2 diameter

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2003-09-22 01:53pm

in my opinion, the slower you fly, the longer you take from A to B....

PzGren · Post by **PzGren** » 2003-09-22 03:23pm

Assuming that the Falcon only accelerated for one second fron stop (of course it didn't, just to make my point clear) with an acceleration as low as the DS's (100g according to Lord Wong), it would make 981m/s !
Any ideas?

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2003-09-22 08:40pm

Why?

Assuming you meant "acceleration" when you said "speed"...

-We don't know if the Falcon was at optimal performance. It just went through a firefight, and got bashed around pretty good.

-We have no idea what sort of micromaneuvers the Falcon had to make. Remember, these weren't bare, easily maneuverable shafts, here. There were obstructions jutting out all over the place.

-At the time, the DS2 was rotating to fire upon Endor. The movement of the entire station would have required Lando to be extra careful about his own maneuvers.

-We know that A: the Falcon is capable of roughly maintaining parity of speed with SW starfighters, and B: that SW starfighters are capable of multi-thousand-G accelerations. I didn't see no multi-thousand-G accelerations, ergo, Lando wasn't flying at full throttle.

Anything else I can educate you about today?

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2003-09-23 01:06am

Actually, there's plenty of time cuts between the explosion of the reactor and the Falcon's escape. We have Ackbar ordering the fleet away from the Death Star, and Luke's entire escape.

And remember, in SCREEN TIME, it took them aprox. 5 MINUTES to REACH the reactor. With all the above happening (The rebel fleet moving away, recalling fighters, Star Destroyers doing the same thing, Luke loading Vader's body onto the shuttle, getting the shuttle through its prelaunch sequence, etc. All this could have easily taken the approx. 20 minutes or so to travel the what, 450km radius of the DS2.

There's too much corroborating evidence for the DS2's 900km diameter to simply point to an alleged discrepancy such as this.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-09-23 02:18am

The path the Falcon took to get out is not necessarily the same as the one it went in from. For all we know, in the straights the Falcon could have been minutes ahead of the blast front, only to have to slow down to comparatively snail's pace for sections with a lot of twists and turns.

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2003-09-23 10:53am

if the falcon flew sloer thru the DS, it took him longer thru the DS..therefore the DS is smaller ok i get that now... is that right?

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2003-09-23 05:28pm

Lex wrote:if the falcon flew sloer thru the DS, it took him longer thru the DS..therefore the DS is smaller ok i get that now... is that right?

No. Wayne pointed out that there had to be some time cuts based on snippits of scenes we saw (such as Luke getting into the shuttle). Therefore, any argument about the DS2's size that is based on the amount of elapsed time during the snippits we saw is wrong, because we didn't see everything.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-09-23 08:51pm

Lord of the Farce wrote:The path the Falcon took to get out is not necessarily the same as the one it went in from.

In the last level of XWA, they were going to take a short way in, but it was blocked. So they flew in a long way, while Grey squadron "unplugged" the tunnel. By the time they left, it was clear, and they used it. This may have happened. The novel skims over the scenes inside the DS2, so it doesn't tell us anything.

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2003-09-24 08:46am

yessss MAD i know that, BUT what i said was wright, wasnt it?

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2003-09-24 10:55am

Lex wrote:yessss MAD i know that, BUT what i said was wright, wasnt it?

To quote my previous answer: "No."

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2003-09-24 11:00am

ok again: if something flys from A to B, it takes C time, right? but when it flies slower from A to B, it takes C+slower speed time, right? so if the falcon slowed down inside the death star, it would have taken it longer to get out of it

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2003-09-24 11:06am

Lex wrote:ok again: if something flys from A to B, it takes C time, right? but when it flies slower from A to B, it takes C+slower speed time, right? so if the falcon slowed down inside the death star, it would have taken it longer to get out of it

Yes, this is correct if you use average velocity. But just because the Falcon was going slower at one point does not mean it was going that same velocity the entire time. Also, there were time cuts so we don't know how long the Falcon was actually inside.

Your previous statement said "therefore the DS is smaller." That was wrong.

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2003-09-24 11:19am

ohh yes that was wrong i know now, sorry for the missunderstanding, my english could be better

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-09-24 02:46pm

Lets not forget the fact that the Falcon has multiple systems to operate - including shields. If they have to power other systems they cannot apply their full measure of engine power. And this is disregarding all the other aforementioned cirucmstances.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-09-24 02:47pm

I may have to recheck the ROTJ novel, but I also believe that when the Rebel starfighters were inside the Death Star, they actually began to rotate it around to fire on Endor, and the timeframe was given as thirty minutes (in fact I believe the DS2 was about ready to fire when it blew)

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2003-09-25 09:07am

that sounds more like what happened on yavin