What would you do if you were in the Empire?

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-03-29 09:57pm

Join the Rebellion. Fly an Xwing! Save the galaxy. I want to put "Freedom Fighter" on my resume.

Although the most likely thing I would do is try to lead a normal life.

Psycho Smiley · Post by **Psycho Smiley** » 2004-03-29 10:04pm

Join the Imperial Navy and run a hypermatter reactor! (Especially on something with a huge friggin' superlaser!)

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-03-29 10:21pm

Techno_Union wrote:4. IESD

What is this? Imperial...Eclipse....Star Destroyer?

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2004-03-30 12:59am

I imagine I'd be an upper-middle-class human living in a well-populated Colonies Region world, working retail, watching TV, and not giving a fuck about the stupid terrorists or the stupid imperialist government.

So, pretty much exactly the same thing I do in real life.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-03-30 01:04am

I'd probably just lead a normal life.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2004-03-30 01:22am

What, no "Sith Apprentice" option? Then I'll join the Imperial Navy as Starfighter pilot, make myself accepted to the Secret Order, and eventually gain the rank of "Emperor's Reach"

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-03-30 05:15pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:
Techno_Union wrote:4. IESD
What is this? Imperial...Eclipse....Star Destroyer?

Eclipse Star Destroyer. I think it would be sorta cool to serve on one, as long as the Emperor was not aboard.

Black Admiral · Post by **Black Admiral** » 2004-03-30 05:27pm

Imperial Army, no question.

Adam Reynolds · Post by **Adam Reynolds** » 2004-03-30 08:25pm

I would live a normal life, but if the Empire messed with me I would join the Rebelion

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2004-03-30 11:23pm

Adamskywalker007 wrote:I would live a normal life, but if the Empire messed with me I would join the Rebelion

And if "rogue" Rebels decided that the best way to liberate a planet involves having a speeder filled with bombs slamming into the middle of a business building to get at a Imperial Moff, the same building that your family and other civilians are in? Would you join the Empire?

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-03-30 11:58pm

What incident are you referring to? Or is that just bullshit?

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2004-03-31 12:23am

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:What incident are you referring to? Or is that just bullshit?

"There are no neutrals on a planet, they are either with us or against us", a quote from a conversation (in the book Bacta War, IIRC) where the leader of a "planetary liberation specialist" admitted that they don't really care if they kill innocents by doing what they do (up to and including blowing up buildings full of innocents).

Those who are willing to read between the lines can work out that they've been doing this for years... And that the RA has full knowledge of what they have been doing, but has done nothing to stop them.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-03-31 12:53am

The Rebel alliance is a terrorist organization. So their disegard for civilian life is not at all unexpected.

Admiral Drason · Post by **Admiral Drason** » 2004-03-31 01:11am

Join the Navy and keep rebels and smugglers froms selling spice to are youth.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-03-31 01:43am

Lord of the Farce wrote:
IRG CommandoJoe wrote:What incident are you referring to? Or is that just bullshit?
"There are no neutrals on a planet, they are either with us or against us", a quote from a conversation (in the book Bacta War, IIRC) where the leader of a "planetary liberation specialist" admitted that they don't really care if they kill innocents by doing what they do (up to and including blowing up buildings full of innocents).

Those who are willing to read between the lines can work out that they've been doing this for years... And that the RA has full knowledge of what they have been doing, but has done nothing to stop them.

Ah. And then in that case....

...and if the Empire did this to your homeworld?

You can't top that.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2004-03-31 01:50am

IRG CommandoJoe wrote: Ah. And then in that case....
...and if the Empire did this to your homeworld?
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You can't top that.

Except for the fact that we know that the civil unrest caused or reignited by these "planet liberationists", and the same caused by mishandling by the RA/NR, easily outnumbers the casualties of Alderaan's destruction... I guess I can't top that.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-03-31 02:21am

Ok, so then if I could also take a broader approach and not use isolated incidents, then I could say the Empire caused far more casualties since it is fond of DBZing worlds as well as outright destroying them. It's also fond of enslaving entire species. It's also fond of routine torture. It's also fond of massacring civilians and trying to cover them up. It's also fond of a totalitarian regime. Can I stop now?

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-03-31 02:53am

try to get a spot on the DS. That battlestation is invincible, i'll outlive you all muahahaha...

But seriously, i think i'll join the rebels. They always seem to beat impossible odds and they got better fighters (thus greatly increasing your chance of surviving)

If i could choose for a normal life i would choose that tough. Getting a nice starship and travel a lot

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2004-03-31 02:54am

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Ok, so then if I could also take a broader approach and not use isolated incidents, then I could say the Empire caused far more casualties since it is fond of DBZing worlds as well as outright destroying them.

Hardly, since BDZ is not an order that is made lightly, and I only recall one case where the planet was not isolated, poorly populated, and the population given a chance to escape.

It's also fond of enslaving entire species.

We have the RA's word on that.

It's also fond of routine torture.

On captured enemies?

It's also fond of massacring civilians and trying to cover them up.

In that case why would (IIRC) the Emperor has at least once ordered the execution of one of his (Force Sensitive) people who did just that? And using live weapons to suppress mass rioting may be bad, but no worse than the Israelis for doing similar, and hell of a lot better than letting the rioters run lose.

It's also fond of a totalitarian regime. Can I stop now?

You're comparing the death of millions under the Empire compared to the trillians under the RA/NR. But since we are talking about [the time period of Palpatine's New Order], and not what would happen afterwards, I'll let this drop.

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2004-03-31 09:46am

Man Lord i wish you would stop talking bullshit. The Emperor killed millions on worlds like Chandrilla and Raltiir, which were peacefully protesting against Taxes. The Empire caused approx. 10 times as many deads as the Rebels did, not talking about enslaving and the rest. I luv the Empire, but what u are talking is worthless.

Sides that I'd join the navy, either Rebel or Imperial. I'd love to command an ISD or MC80.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2004-03-31 10:01am

Lex wrote:Man Lord i wish you would stop talking bullshit. The Emperor killed millions on worlds like Chandrilla and Raltiir, which were peacefully protesting against Taxes. The Empire caused approx. 10 times as many deads as the Rebels did, not talking about enslaving and the rest. I luv the Empire, but what u are talking is worthless.

Learn. To. Read.

Lord of the Farce wrote:You're comparing the death of millions under the Empire compared to the trillians under the RA/NR. But since we are talking about the time period of Palpatine's New Order, and not what would happen afterwards, I'll let this drop.

The Empire may have caused the death of millions during it's reign, but that is nothing compared to the uncounted trillions of deaths resulting from the bungling incompetence of the NR in the Yuuzhan Vong crisis.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-03-31 10:47am

Lord of the Farce wrote:Hardly, since BDZ is not an order that is made lightly, and I only recall one case where the planet was not isolated, poorly populated, and the population given a chance to escape.

I admit I can't cite any specific instances of BDZs...I probably shouldn't have mentioned it since I only know of it, but never actually read any novels or sourcebooks with specific instances of it. I have to concede.

We have the RA's word on that.

If you are implying we shouldn't trust the Rebel Alliance's word, then I say we shouldn't trust the Empire's word.

On captured enemies?

Yes. Leia and Han come to mind. Granted Leia had information they needed to obtain, but Han had no information they needed to obtain. They used him to lure Luke into coming to Bespin. One wonders if they really did need to torture Han or if Luke would have went there anyway. One could also argue that testing the carbonite freezing on live subjects is another form of torture. Either way, it's a sick experiment.

In that case why would (IIRC) the Emperor has at least once ordered the execution of one of his (Force Sensitive) people who did just that?

I don't know. I wasn't aware of such a situation. I was referring to the Jawas and Tusken Raiders.

And using live weapons to suppress mass rioting may be bad, but no worse than the Israelis for doing similar, and hell of a lot better than letting the rioters run lose.

Are you referring to the scene we see in RotJ SE at the end of the movie? I was talking about how Stormtroopers massacred Jawas and Tusken Raiders and tried to cover it up by blaming it on the Tusken Raiders.

You're comparing the death of millions under the Empire compared to the trillians under the RA/NR. But since we are talking about [the time period of Palpatine's New Order], and not what would happen afterwards, I'll let this drop.

We also are not talking about how the Empire was created in the first place by starting a galaxy-wide war in order to let a single individual rise to power, right? Just making sure.

EDIT: Oh wait a minute, we are talking about Palpatine's New Order. Then I can include the fact that he started the galaxy-spanning Clone Wars to merely create the Empire in the first place. So you can add that to the list of Imperial crimes.

Post by **Kuja** » 2004-03-31 03:25pm

Boy, I'm glad I thought up this little gem. It's turning out to be quite useful.

Greasy smoke rose from the interior of Echo Base. Snowtroopers, grouped in tight firesquads, patrolled the area, their eyes peeled for any rebel scum that might have escaped. Another group stood at attention in two straight lines, awaiting orders. One trooper in particular, his uniform marking him a Lieutenant Commander, stood among the icy crags just outside the main hanger, waiting for his second-in-command's report. His cape billowed in the wind, revealing the vibrosword sheathed at his hip. Most Stormtroopers didn't go in for that kind of flash, but he was a bit special. If a member of the Imperial Recruiting Department had been present, they'd have taken a picture and sent it to every chilly world in the Empire, probably with the words "WE NEED YOU!" or maybe "JOIN UP NOW!" at the bottom. Beneath his helmet, the man grinned.

"Sir!" a voice registered in his right earpiece. He turned to see two of his men dragging a shell-shocked man dressed in furs towards him. When they got to five feet, they let go and saluted. He returned the salute, noting that the rebel looked ready to keel over. He touched his helmet mike with his tongue.

"Name, rank," he said flatly. The rebel blinked at him, like a barve caught in a skimmer's headlights. He reached out and shook the man's shoulder. "Name. Rank." The words came more harshly this time.

"M-Mantag Yullis," the man stammered. "Petty Officer." The Snowtrooper scowled. This man was useless. He was about to order his men to take the prisoner away when a black form exiting the hanger caught his eye. In an instant, he snapped to attention and saluted. His squad followed his example.

"Have you found something?" Lord Darth Vader questioned.

"Only a Petty Officer, milord," the trooper replied, dropping his salute. "I was about to order his imprisonment."

The Dark Lord's gaze didn't leave the trooper's face for even a moment. "Remove your helmet," he said.The man did so without hesitation. Immediately, the Hoth wind picked up his long white hair and blasted it across his face, but the trooper didn't flinch. He'd grown up in conditions like this. "We have met before," Vader said. There was not a trace of uncertainty in his voice.

"Yes milord. Zecundis campaign. My squad escorted you to...meet...with the governor."

"Yes," Vader said, more softly. Then, he turned and regarded the prisoner. "This man is useless," he said a moment later. "Dispose of him, then return to your dropship. We are leaving this world."

"Of course milord," the trooper said, but Vader had already turned to leave. By now, the prisoner looked almost as white as the snow.

"No, don't kill me!" He pleaded. "I surrender! I-"

"It's too late for that," the trooper replied. He tossed his helmet to one of his men, then drew his vibrosword and thumbed it on. "Lord Vader gave me an order," he said, a cruel smile forming on his features. "And one doesn't last long by disobeying Lord Vader's orders."

The trooper kicked out and caught the man in the stomach. The rebel bent over, gasping. The trooper sidestepped, spun his wrist, and brought the vibrosword down on the back of the man's neck. Flesh, muscle, nerves, and bone all gave way before the thrumming weapon. The rebel's head hit the ground a moment before the rest of him, his blood staining the perfect snow a bright red.

Kuja knelt and wiped the sword on the man's fur jacket and resheathed it. He held his hands out, and the trooper holding his helmet tossed it back to him. "You heard Lord Vader, gentlemen," he said. "We're heading back to Blizzard Nine. Move."

As his squad began the march back to the AT-ATs, Kuja took a quick look around. The base was already being abandoned, with fewer and fewer troopers exiting. At his feet, the rebel's blood was already starting to freeze. Kuja took a deep breath of the Hoth air before he put his helmet back on. How sweet it felt.

Snowtroopers all the way.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-03-31 03:28pm

i'd run a harem catering in hot green alien chicks.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-03-31 03:38pm

Darth_Zod wrote:i'd run a harem catering in hot green alien chicks.

Hell, why stop at green? Have all the colours of the rainbow!